Mr. Fritz.

get it. But I understand that Dean had made some kind of special report to the chief but that wasn't to me.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever know a man named Roger Craig, a deputy sheriff?

Mr. Fritz.

Roger Craig, I might if I knew which one he was. Do we have it here?

Mr. Ball.

He was a witness from whom you took a statement in your office or some of your men.

Mr. Fritz.

Some of my officers.

Mr. Ball.

He is a deputy sheriff.

Mr. Fritz.

One deputy sheriff who started to talk to me but he was telling me some things that I knew wouldn't help us and I didn't talk to him but someone else took an affidavit from him. His story that he was telling didn't fit with what we knew to be true.

Mr. Ball.

Roger Craig stated that about 15 minutes after the shooting he saw a man, a white man, leave the Texas State Book Depository Building, run across a lawn, and get into a white Rambler driven by a colored man.

Mr. Fritz.

I don't think that is true.

Mr. Ball.

I am stating this. You remember the witness now?

Mr. Fritz.

I remember the witness; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did that man ever come into your office and talk to you in the presence of Oswald?

Mr. Fritz.

In the presence of Oswald?

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Fritz.

No, sir; I am sure he did not. I believe that man did come to my office in that little hallway, you know outside my office, and I believe I stepped outside the door and talked to him for a minute and I let someone else take an affidavit from him. We should have that affidavit from him if it would help.

Mr. Ball.

Now this man states that, has stated, that he came to your office and Oswald was in your office, and you asked him to look at Oswald and tell you whether or not this was the man he saw, and he says that in your presence he identified Oswald as the man that he had seen run across this lawn and get into the white Rambler sedan. Do you remember that?

Mr. Fritz.

I think it was taken, I think it was one of my officers, and I think if he saw him he looked through that glass and saw him from the outside because I am sure of one thing that I didn't bring him in the office with Oswald.

Mr. Ball.

You are sure you didn't?

Mr. Fritz.

I am sure of that. I feel positive of that. I would remember that I am sure.

Mr. Ball.

He also says that in that office----

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

After he had said, "That is the man," that Oswald got up from his chair and slammed his hand on the table and said, "Now everybody will know who I am." Did that ever occur in your presence?

Mr. Fritz.

If it did I never saw anything like that; no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

That didn't occur?

Mr. Fritz.

No, sir; it didn't. That man is not telling a true story if that is what he said. Do you have any---could I ask a question, is it all right if I ask a question?

Mr. Mccloy.

All right, go ahead.

Mr. Ball.

Go ahead.

Mr. Fritz.

I was going to ask if we had any affidavits from any of our officers that would back that up? If they did I never heard of it.

Mr. Ball.

If you are here tomorrow.

Mr. Fritz.

It is something I don't know anything about.

Mr. Ball.

If you are here tomorrow I would like to show you the deposition of the man for you to read it.

Mr. Fritz.

I am sure I would know that. The only time I saw the man hit the desk was when Mr. Hosty talked to him and he really got upset about that.

Mr. Dulles.

Is that in the testimony, have you testified about that?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Mccloy.

That shows his agitation over the alleged----

Mr. Fritz.

Questioning.