Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

One of them was you found he had a transfer, didn't you, in his he was arrested?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; I sure talked to him about the transfers.

Mr. Ball.

All right. What did he say?

Mr. Fritz.

He admitted the transfer.

Mr. Ball.

I don't want you to say he admitted the transfer. I want you to tell me what he said about the transfer.

Mr. Fritz.

He told he that was the transfer the busdriver had given him when he caught the bus to go home. But he had told me if you will remember in our previous conversation that he rode the bus or on North Beckley and had walked home but in the meantime, sometime had told me about him riding a cab.
So, when I asked him about a cab ride if he had ridden in a cab he said yes, he had, he told me wrong about the bus, he had rode a cab. He said the reason he changed, that he rode the bus for a short distance, and the crowd was so heavy and traffic was so bad that he got out and caught a cab, and I asked him some other questions about the cab and I asked him what happened there when he caught the cab and he said there was a lady trying to catch a cab and he told the busdriver, the busdriver told him to tell the lady to catch the cab behind him and he said he rode that cab over near his home, he rode home in a cab.
I asked him how much the cabfare was, he said 85 cents.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ask him if he went directly to his home?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; he said he went straight home.

Mr. Ball.

Didn't you learn from the cabdriver that he hadn't taken him to 1026 North Beckley?

Mr. Fritz.

I knew he had taken him near there but I am telling you what he told me, he told me he had taken him home.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ask him whether he had gone directly home?

Mr. Fritz.

No, sir; I don't think so.

Mr. Ball.

Then you found out the day before about the Wesley Frazier package, hadn't you?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; I found out about the package from Irving.

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And also that he usually went home on Friday night and this time he went home on Thursday night.

Mr. Fritz.

I asked him why he had changed nights.

Mr. Ball.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Fritz.

And let me see what he told me about why he had changed. The man I talked to told me he usually went out on weekends, on Friday, so I believe he told me, I am not positive why he told me why he went home on this different night but I think he told me because someone else was going to be over there on weekends or something to that effect.
I can look right here and see what he told me.

Mr. Ball.

All right, look and see. You also asked him that day about the curtain rods, didn't you?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Had you asked him about that the night before, do you know or was this the first time you talked to him about it?

Mr. Fritz.

I don't think I asked him the night before, I am sure I did not. I am sure I did not ask him the night before. I remember I was pretty hesitant about asking him about them at all because I told you I didn't want to tell him--I didn't want him to tell me about curtain rods until I found out a little more about them.

Mr. Ball.

But you asked him about them this morning?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

He had told Frazier that he had curtain rods in the package?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; he denied having curtain rods or any package other than his lunch.