Mr. Mccloy.

examination, but was it usual for the representatives of the news media to attend showups in the police headquarters apart from this incident?

Mr. Curry.

It was not unusual. This was not setting a precedent.

Mr. Mccloy.

It was not unusual.

Representative Ford.

In such a showup where they are present, are they shielded from the person brought in for identification?

Mr. Curry.

Are they shielded from----

Representative Ford.

From the person who is brought up for identification?

Mr. Curry.

Ordinarily the person who is brought up for identification would be behind the screen, behind this silk screen. This is for the purpose of protecting the person who is going to try to identify him more than trying to protect the person who is being shown up because witnesses ofttimes have a fear of facing someone that they are asked to identify.
For this reason this screen was provided where the prisoner could not see out, but the people can see in. It is much like a one-way glass.

Representative Ford.

That was used in this case?

Mr. Curry.

No; this was not used. We just brought him in front of it.

Representative Ford.

Any particular reason why he was put in front of it?

Mr. Curry.

They asked us if we wouldn't bring him out there, they didn't think their cameras would show through the screen. And as I repeated, when this was brought up, I asked Mr. Wade, the district attorney, if he saw anything wrong with this and he said "No; I don't see anything wrong with this," so we agreed to do this.

Representative Ford.

Who was in charge of the actual showup operation?

Mr. Curry.

The jail personnel would have brought him down from downstairs and brought him into the room and then removed him.

Representative Ford.

Who handled the actual process of identification or attempted identification by various witnesses?

Mr. Curry.

Usually Captain Fritz or some of his homicide detectives are present. I know when they were having a showup for a little lady, I don't know her name but she was a waitress who observed the shooting of the officer, I just--I wasn't there during the entire showup but I was present part of the showup and Captain Fritz was asking her to observe these people and see if she could pick out the man she saw who shot the officer and she didn't identify Oswald at that time.

Representative Ford.

Did you say the actual process that was--that took place in these several showups was similar to or different from the showups in other cases?

Mr. Curry.

The only one where we didn't have any particular witnesses to show him up to, but the number of the news media had asked if they couldn't see him and it was almost impossible for all of them to see him up in this hallway and we decided that the best thing to do, if we were going to let them see him at all would be to take them and get them into a room, and then there was utter confusion after we did that because they tried to overrun him after we got him there and we immediately removed him and took him back upstairs.

Representative Ford.

You mentioned earlier there had been some allegations to the effect that Oswald had been badly treated.

Mr. Curry.

There was---I didn't hear this myself but someone told me, I don't recall who it was, that some of the news media, I understood this was broadcast over the radio and TV.

Representative Ford.

Did you investigate that rumor?

Mr. Curry.

Yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

What did you find out?

Mr. Curry.

I found he had not been mistreated.

Representative Ford.

You checked with all the police personnel who had anything to do with it?

Mr. Curry.

Everyone I knew about and the only marks on him was, that I could see there was a slight mark on his face up here, and this was received when he was fighting the officers in that theatre, and they had to subdue him and in the scuffle, this episode in the theatre, he apparently received a couple of marks on his face.
But he didn't complain to me about it. I think he--one of the times he was