Mr. Curry.

I believe it was about 4 o'clock I believe when I returned to the office.

Mr. Dulles.

It was 4 o'clock when you returned to the office from Love Field?

Mr. Curry.

I believe so, I am not positive.
When I arrived they were in the process of, Captain Fritz and his men, were in the process of investigating this murder of Tippit and also the assassination of the President.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you make an inquiry in regard to the progress?

Mr. Curry.

I think I did. I asked him how he was coming along and he said they were making good progress.

Mr. Rankin.

Then what happened after that?

Mr. Curry.

They had had a couple of showups with Oswald so witnesses could attempt to identify him.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know whether they had gone out to Beckley Street to the place where he had stayed?

Mr. Curry.

I understood they had and I understood they went back the next day.

Mr. Rankin.

What do you mean by a showup?

Mr. Curry.

Well, it is customary when you have suspects in a crime where you have witnesses, that they be taken into a room and allowed, the witnesses, to observe them in the presence of other people.

Mr. Rankin.

You have a room for this purpose?

Mr. Curry.

Yes, sir; we do.

Mr. Rankin.

Will you describe briefly what that room is like?

Mr. Curry.

It is a police assemblyroom where we hold our regular rollcalls. They have a stage whereby prisoners are brought up on this stage.

Mr. Rankin.

How large is the room?

Mr. Curry.

The room, I would say, is perhaps 50 feet long and 20 feet wide.

Mr. Rankin.

Who was allowed in the room at the time of this showup?

Mr. Curry.

Presumably only the news media and police officers. I have been told that Jack Ruby was seen in this showuproom also.

Mr. Rankin.

About what time of the day was that?

Mr. Curry.

As I recall, this was fairly late Friday night, I believe.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know who was there to try to identify Lee Oswald?

Mr. Curry.

No, I don't. The news media, a number of them, had continued to say, "Let us see him. What are you doing to him? How does he look?"
I think one broadcaster that I had heard or someone had told me about, said that Lee Harvey Oswald is in custody of the police department, and that something about he looked all right when he went in there, they wouldn't guarantee how he would look after he had been in custody of the Dallas police for a couple of hours, which intimated to me that when I heard this that they thought we were mistreating the prisoner.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you do anything about that?

Mr. Curry.

I offered then at that time they wanted to see him and they wanted to know why they couldn't see him and I said we had no objection to anybody seeing him. And when he was being moved down the hall to go back up in the jail they would crowd on him and we just had to surround him by officers to get to take him to the jail elevator to take him back upstairs, to let him rest from the interrogation.

Mr. Rankin.

And this showup, how many people attended?

Mr. Curry.

I would think perhaps 75 people. I am just making an estimate. I told them if they would not try to overrun the prisoner and not try to interrogate him we would bring him to the showup room. There was--this, thinking also that these newspaper people had been all over Love field, and had been down at the assassination scene, and we didn't know but what some of them might recognize him as being present, they might have seen him around some of these places.
Now, Mr. Wade, the district attorney, was present, at this time and his assistant was present, and as I recall, I asked Mr. Wade, I said, "Do you think this will be all right?" And he said, "I don't see anything wrong with it."

Mr. Rankin.

Did you find out where Jack Ruby was during this showup?