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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 92« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
That is Commission exhibit number what?
Mrs. Paine.
401, But it has not helped me in refreshing my memory.
Mr. Mccloy.
Did you have contacts with the FBI and if so what were they before the assassination?
Mrs. Paine.
An FBI agent was out, I have learned since, on November 1.
I made no note of the day for myself. Sat down and talked in a relaxed way and for sometime in my living room. He said that the FBI liked to make it plain to people who have been in this country sometime, immigrated from an iron curtain country if they were experiencing any blackmail pressure from their home country, that they were welcome, and invited to discuss it with the FBI if they so choose.
Mr. Jenner.
Excuse me, Marina was present?
Mrs. Paine.
Marina was present.
Mr. Jenner.
Did she overhear?
Mrs. Paine.
I am not certain--I tried to translate some of this conversation, I am not certain how good my translation was or how well I conveyed it, or even if I conveyed it to her.
Mr. Jenner.
But you do recall translating some of the conversation to her?
Mrs. Paine.
I do recall translating some of the conversation indeed.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you at times asked to address Marina to convey something that the FBI agent asked you to convey to her and then to translate in the reverse to him?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall anything as formal as that; no. The agent and I conversed some in English. He said, for instance, that, well he was interested in knowing if Lee Oswald lived here. I told him he did not, that he had a room in town; he asked if I knew where the room was and I said I did not. He asked if he was working and I said yes, and that he was working at the Texas School Book Depository. I haven't gone over any of this yet, it must have been in conversation with you.
Mr. Jenner.
You testified to this yesterday afternoon?
Mrs. Paine.
I thought I did. It sounds familiar.
Mr. Mccloy.
I just wanted to fix for my own benefit the number of times you saw FBI agents prior to the assassination in the company of Marina.
Mr. Jenner.
There was a succeeding date?
Mrs. Paine.
There was a succeeding date which again I have been told by the FBI was November 5, the first time.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall it was a few days after the first man came?
Mrs. Paine.
I recall--
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall it was in your home?
Mrs. Paine.
I recall it was in the early part of the week.
Mr. Jenner.
Did the same gentleman call?
Mrs. Paine.
The same gentleman. He had someone else along.
Mr. Jenner.
That was Mr. Hosty, the gentleman whom you now have in mind?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; I now know his name as Hosty.
Mr. Mccloy.
From that you knew that the FBI was still interested in the activity of Oswald?
Mrs. Paine.
Oh, indeed.
Mr. Mccloy.
That is what I want to bring out. I think that is all I have, the questions I have.

Are you going to take up later this estrangement as to how it developed?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes; I shall do that this afternoon. Representative Ford has afforded me a list of subjects upon which to make inquiry and I will do so this afternoon. Perhaps Representative Ford and Senator Cooper, you would have some questions of this lady before we adjourn for the luncheon period?
Senator Cooper.
Are you going to continue this afternoon?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Senator Cooper.
I will postpone mine until this afternoon. I think Mr. McCloy and Congressman Ford have to go.
Representative Ford.
Mr. Jenner, I will give you these questions and use those, if any, that are other than what you planned to use yourself. I am a little interested and I would like to hear you tell it, if I could, Mrs. Paine, how much did you know about the finances of Lee and Marina?
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