(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)
Mrs. Paine.
might be in trouble with the police or in any way involved in the day's events. I asked them to come in. They said they wanted to search the house. I asked if they had a warrant. They said they didn't. They said they could get the sheriff out here right away with one if I insisted. And I said no, that was all right, they could be my guests.
They then did search the house. I directed them to the fact that most of the Oswald's things were in storage in my garage and showed where the garage was, and to the room where Marina and the baby had stayed where they would find the other things which belonged to the Oswalds. Marina and I went with two or three of these police officers to the garage.
Mr. Jenner.
How many police officers were there?
Mrs. Paine.
There were six altogether, and they were busy in various parts of the house. The officer asked me in the garage did Lee Oswald have any weapons or guns. I said no, and translated the question to Marina, and she said yes; that she had seen a portion of it--had looked into--she indicated the blanket roll on the floor.
Mr. Jenner.
Was the blanket roll on the floor at that time?
Mrs. Paine.
She indicated the blanket roll on the floor very close to where I was standing. As she told me about it I stepped onto the blanket roll.
Mr. Jenner.
This might be helpful. You had shaped that up yesterday and I will just put it on the floor.
Mrs. Paine.
And she indicated to me that she had peered into this roll and saw a portion of what she took to be a gun she knew her husband to have, a rifle. And I then translated this to the officers that she knew that her husband had a gun that he had stored in here.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you standing on the blanket when you advised--
Mrs. Paine.
When I translated. I then stepped off of it and the officer picked it up in the middle and it bent so.
Mr. Jenner.
It hung limp just as it now hangs limp in your hand?
Mrs. Paine.
And at this moment I felt this man was in very deep trouble and may have done--
Mr. Mccloy.
Were the strings still on it?
Mrs. Paine.
The strings were still on it. It looked exactly as it had at previous times I had seen it. It was at this point I say I made the connection with the assassination, thinking that possibly, knowing already that the shot had been made from the School Book Depository, and that this was a rifle that was missing, I wondered if he would not also be charged before the day was out with the assassination.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you say anything?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I didn't say that.
Mr. Jenner.
When the officer picked up the blanket package, did you hear any crinkling as though there was paper inside?
Mrs. Paine.
No crinkling.
Mr. Jenner.
None whatsoever. When you stepped on the package, did you have a feeling through your feet that there was something inside the package in the way of paper.
Mrs. Paine.
Not anything in the way of paper.
Mr. Jenner.
Or wrapping.
Mrs. Paine.
Or anything that crinkled; no. I did think it was hard but that was my cement floor.
Mr. Jenner.
But definitely you had no sensation of any paper inside?
Mrs. Paine.
No such sensation.
Mr. Jenner.
Of the nature or character of the wrapping paper you identified yesterday.
Mrs. Paine.
No; and when he picked it up I would think such paper would rattle, but there was no such sound. Marina said nothing at this time. She was very white, and of course I judged--
Mr. Jenner.
Did she blanch?
Mrs. Paine.
She is not a person to immediately show her feelings necessarily. She was white. I wouldn't say that it was a sudden thing. I can't be certain that it was sudden at that point.
Representative Ford.
How close was she standing to it.
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