Mrs. Paine.

We were particularly interested in seeing if the wrapping paper that we used to wrap these things was there, and it was. I recall that.

Representative Ford.

Did Lee Oswald know where you kept this roll of wrapping paper?

Mrs. Paine.

To the best of my knowledge, he did not know where I kept it.
I had never wrapped something when he was around. Neither he nor Marina had ever asked to use this paper or the string that I had.

Representative Ford.

Where did you keep it? I don't recall precisely.

Mrs. Paine.

I can be very clear. There is a picture here of a large secretary desk on Commission Exhibit No. 435. It is in the bottom drawer, you see, in that desk. This is not the secretary desk upon which--

Mr. Jenner.

The note was found?

Mrs. Paine.

The note was found.

Representative Ford.

You kept it in the lower drawer?

Mrs. Paine.

Along with some gum tape and string.

Representative Ford.

And this is the section shown on Commission Exhibit 435?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Reporter, you caught the measurement by Mr. Liebeler, 28 inches. Mrs. Paine, what is your best recollection as to how many curtain rods there were?

Mrs. Paine.

Two, I am certain.

Mr. Jenner.

Just two? And you wrapped the package yourself, did you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

When you and Michael undertook your discussion about curtain rods, did you or did he open up this package?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Is it your present best recollection that as far as you know, the package, as far as wrapping is concerned, is in the same condition now as when you wrapped it initially?

Mrs. Paine.

Certainly very similar.

Senator Cooper.

What was the answer?

Mrs. Paine.

Certainly very similar. I don't recall making any change.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there a possibility that the package was unwrapped at anytime?

Mrs. Paine.

In connection with this inquiry of Michael's; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You think he might have but you don't know.

Mrs. Paine.

Or I might have. I don't recall. I recall that it wasn't something that interested me as much as the other things I had to get done.

Mr. Jenner.

But the rods about which you have testified as far as you know are on the shelf in your garage at your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall whether when the FBI discussed this subject with you, if you can recall that, that you advised the FBI of these particular curtain rods?

Mrs. Paine.

I am not perfectly certain that they discussed it with me.

Mr. Jenner.

You just have no recollection of any interview with the FBI on this particular subject?

Mrs. Paine.

It seems to me they brought it up, but I don't recall the content nor whether they went out. I certainly think I would remember if I had gone out to the garage with an FBI representative.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do not?

Mrs. Paine.

But I do not remember such an occasion.

Mr. Jenner.

Unless the members of the Commission have any further questions with respect to the curtain rods, I will return to the afternoon.

Senator Cooper.

I want to ask just two questions. Before the assassination, did you know where the package with the curtain rods in it was situated within the garage?

Mrs. Paine.

I gave it no attention but yes, it is my impression that I did go out to see if things were where I expected to find them. They were wrapped in brown paper, the curtain rods and venetian blinds. And found things there. I don't recall that I looked into the package.

Mr. Jenner.

You did find the package?