Mrs. Paine.

was certainly much more comfortable than the weekend in early May had been when I first was, in New Orleans.

Mr. Jenner.

You described yesterday an irritability as between Marina and Lee when you were there in the spring?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And that that had continued during all the time you were in New Orleans. You found the situation different?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

On your return in the fall?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you have already related the incident about touring Bourbon Street, and that occurred on this occasion, did it?

Mrs. Paine.

During that weekend, yes; those days.

Mr. Jenner.

And Lee Harvey Oswald stayed home that evening or that day. It was late in the day, was it, rather than the evening?

Mrs. Paine.

It was early evening.

Mr. Jenner.

Early evening. What did he do at home, do you know?

Mrs. Paine.

When we got back Marina noticed that the dishes had been cleaned up and put away. I take it back, they had been washed, not put away. And I believe he did some packing.

Mr. Jenner.

In anticipation of your returning to Irving, Tex., with Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.
I was impressed during these 2 days with his willingness to help with the packing. He did virtually all the packing and all the loading of the things into the car. I simply thought that gentlemanly of him at the time. I have wondered since whether he wasn't doing it by preference to having me handle it.

Mr. Jenner.

I was about to ask you your impression in that direction. Did he seem eager to do the packing?

Mrs. Paine.

He did, distinctly.

Mr. Jenner.

Distinctly eager?

Mrs. Paine.

I recall he began as early, you see, as Saturday night and we left Tuesday morning.

Mr. Jenner.

And you are aware of the fact he did some packing while you and Marina were on tour?

Mrs. Paine.

It couldn't have been Saturday night, because I only arrived on Saturday. More likely it was Sunday. Is Bourbon Street open on Sunday?

Mr. Jenner.

Bourbon Street is open all the time.

Mrs. Paine.

Then it would have to be.
( Discussion off the record. )

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have the feeling at the time that he was quite eager to do the packing?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And did you have the feeling it was just a touch out of the ordinary?

Mrs. Paine.

It didn't occur to me that it was.

Mr. Jenner.

But on reflection now, you think it was out of the ordinary?

Mrs. Paine.

On reflection now I think it wasn't simply a gesture of the gentleman.

Mr. Jenner.

But at the time it didn't arouse enough interest on your part to have a question in your mind?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I would have expected it of other men, but this was the first I saw him taking that much interest.

Mr. Jenner.

It did arrest your attention on that score, in any event?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you were there for 2 full days and 3 evenings. Would you tell us, conserving your description in your words, what did you do during

these 2 days and 3 nights. When I say "you", I am including all three of you.

Mrs. Paine.

Of course, afternoons we usually spent in rest for the children, having all small children, all of us having small children.