Mrs. Paine.

We did have one short conversation and this was in English. I began it. He was willing to proceed in English.

Mr. Jenner.

This is one of the few occasions in which he permitted himself to speak with you in English?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct. I asked him if he thought his application was any impediment to his getting and keeping a job. He said he didn't know, and went on to say that he had already lost his job when he was arrested for passing out pro-Cuba literature here in New Orleans. And he said he spent the night in jail, and I said, "Did Marina know that?" "Yes, she knew it."

Mr. Jenner.

I want you to finish the conversation.

Mrs. Paine.

This was as much of a revelation, accurate revelation of what he had done as I ever got from him.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, Mrs. Paine. I am going to get into that with you.
I would like to have you finish the conversation first before you give your reaction.

Mrs. Paine.

That was the end of it.

Mr. Jenner.

That was the end?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, with respect to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee activity, had you up to this moment heard of Lee Harvey Oswald's activities, if any, of any character and to any extent, with respect to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee?

Mrs. Paine.

I had not heard of any such activities.
The name of the committee was not mentioned. I did not know the name of the committee until it appeared in the newspapers after the assassination.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, how did Lee Harvey Oswald describe that? What did he say?

Mrs. Paine.

He said that he was passing out pro-Castro or pro-Cuba literature, and that there were some anti-Castro people who also caused some disturbance, and that he had spent the night in jail.

Mr. Jenner.

And did I understand you correctly to say that he assigned that as a possible--

Mrs. Paine.

No, on the contrary.

Mr. Jenner.

As possibly having had some effect on his loss of position?

Mrs. Paine.

On the contrary, he made the point that he had already lost his job before this happened.

Mr. Jenner.

That he had lost his position before the Fair Play for Cuba incident?

Mrs. Paine.

So that he did not know, he could not cite an instance where his application had made it difficult for him in his work.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you had conversation with Marina prior to this time in which she might have suggested or did suggest that his application and his history of having gone to Russia and then returned to the United States as having an adverse effect on his efforts to obtain employment?

Mrs. Paine.

No; nothing of that nature was said.

Mr. Jenner.

That was never discussed in your presence?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it ever discussed in your presence or raised in your presence by anybody other than Lee Harvey Oswald or Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

Not to my recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it ever discussed with you by anybody even though they weren't present? By "they" I mean Lee and Marina. You recall none? This is the first instance of any discussion of that character, and you raised it, did you?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have exhausted your recollection of this particular conversation, have you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I gather from your testimony that you found the relations between Marina and Lee improved on this occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

They certainly appeared to be improved. The weekend time