Mrs. Paine.

Representative. FORD. She had the normal reaction of turning a light off if she left a room?

Mrs. Paine.

Her own room. Now you see most of the rooms--if she was the last one in the room she would turn it off; yes; going to bed or something like that she certainly would turn it off.

Mr. Jenner.

Of course. if she was going to bed she would turn the light off. But when she was leaving the room, was it her tendency to turn off the light?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, the garage light is the only room in my house you leave not to come back to right away. The whole house is active all the time until bedtime. It is hard to answer.

Mr. Jenner.

So the lights are on?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Representative Ford.

Would you make any observation about Lee's tendencies or traits in this regard?

Mrs. Paine.

I can't say I have observation as to his tendencies.

Mr. Jenner.

It was your habit, however, as far as you are concerned with respect to the light in the garage to turn it off when you left the garage?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What were your habits with respect to closing the main garage door, that is the door opening onto the street?

Mrs. Paine.

That was always closed except to open just to take out the trash can.

Mr. Jenner.

And though it is shown in one of the photographs as open.

Mrs. Paine.

That was done for the purpose of the photograph by the FBI.

Mr. Jenner.

So that normally your garage door is down?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it down when you arrived?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it was.

Mr. Jenner.

At your home when you were surprised to see Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it certainly was.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have recollection whether anytime that evening of hearing the garage door being raised or seeing the garage door up?

Mrs. Paine.

I have no such recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have a recollection that it was down at all times?

Mrs. Paine.

I wasn't in the garage.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, you entered the garage did you not that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

Except then; yes, at 9 or so. It was certainly down.

Mr. Jenner.

It was down then?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You say your home is small and you can hear even the front door opening. Does the raising of the garage door cause some clatter?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it does.

Mr. Jenner.

And had the garage door been raised, even though you were giving attention to your children, would you have heard it?

Mrs. Paine.

If it was raised slow and carefully; no, I would not have heard it.

Mr. Jenner.

But if it were raised normally?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You would have heard it. And it is your recollection that at no time that evening were you conscious of that garage door having been raised.

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

You had reached the point at which you said you entered the garage to, did you say, lacquer some blocks which you had prepared?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.
Mr. JENNER. What did you notice in the garage when you entered it to lacquer those blocks?
Mrs. PAINE. The garage was as I always found it, and I went and got the lacquer from the workbench on the west side of the garage and painted the blocks on top of the deepfreeze. My motions were in the interior portion.
Mr. JENNER. That is in the area of the garage near the kitchen entrance?
Mrs. PAINE. Right.
Mr. JENNER. How long were you in the garage on that occasion?
Mrs. PAINE. About a half an hour.