Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do recall greeting him?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You don't recall that you evidenced any surprise that he was there?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, I think I did.

Mr. Jenner.

Had there ever been an occasion prior thereto that he had appeared at your home without prior notice to you and permission from you for him to appear?

Mrs. Paine.

There had been no such occasion. He had always asked permission prior to coming.

Mr. Jenner.

And there never had been an exception to that up to this moment?

Mrs. Paine.

No exception.

Mr. Jenner.

May we have the time again? You say it was late in the afternoon, but can you fix the time a little more?

Mrs. Paine.

It was getting on toward 5:30.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you tarry and talk with Lee and Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

I remember only that Marina and I were still on the grass at the entryway to the house when she spoke of her embarrassment to me in an aside, that is to say, not in Lee's hearing, that she was sorry he hadn't called ahead and asked if that was all right. And I said "Why, that is all right."

Mr. Jenner.

Nothing was said by her as to why he had come out?

Mrs. Paine.

Nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

And nothing was--

Mrs. Paine.

She was clearly surprised also.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. You made no inquiry of her I take it then of any explanation made by Lee Oswald as to why he had come out unannounced and unexpectedly?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

At least not as of that moment.

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now when you had your aside with Marina, where was Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

On the grass near the tree playing with June as closely as I can remember.

Mr. Jenner.

How long did you and Marina remain in conversation at that place, position?

Mrs. Paine.

Less than a minute.

Mr. Jenner.

Then what did you do?

Mrs. Paine.

I can only reconstruct it.

Mr. Jenner.

That is all I am asking you to do.

Mrs. Paine.

I must have gotten groceries from the car.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean reconstruct in the sense of rationalizing?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I wish you would give me first your recollection.

Mrs. Paine.

I am certain of going into the house, and I recall standing just inside the doorway.

Mr. Jenner.

Of your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Of my home.

Mr. Jenner.

But inside the home?

Mrs. Paine.

But inside now.

Mr. Jenner.

Which way were you facing when you were standing inside the doorway?

Mrs. Paine.

I was facing partly toward the door, toward the loud speaker. I was facing this way.

Mr. Jenner.

Why were you facing outwardly?

Mrs. Paine.

I believe I turned. I was coming in. I believe I turned to speak to Lee as he came in.

Mr. Jenner.

Lee followed you in the house?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And did Marina come in?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall whether she was already in or still out.