Senator Cooper.

I will be here anyway all morning and will try to come back this afternoon.

The Chairman.

Thank you very much. Mrs. Paine, I want to thank you for coming and for being so patient with our long questioning.

Mrs. Paine.

I am glad to do what I can.

The Chairman.

You know that it is necessary.

Mrs. Paine.

Indeed.

The Chairman.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Jenner.

You might use the ruler, and I have set the floor plan and the area plan of your home, Mrs. Paine, Exhibit 430, on the blackboard. As you testify, it might be helpful to point to those areas. Now in which direction were you coming?

Mrs. Paine.

I was coming from the east.

Mr. Jenner.

From the east?

Mrs. Paine.

Along West Fifth.

Mr. Jenner.

You were going west. Your home is on the right-hand side.

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

When did you first sight, where were you when you first saw Lee in your courtyard?

Mrs. Paine.

Just past the corner of Westbrook and Fifth.

Mr. Jenner.

That area is open from that point to your home; is it?

Mrs. Paine.

The area of the front yard; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Your home is well set back from the street or sidewalk?

Mrs. Paine.

Moderately set back.

Mr. Jenner.

What would you judge that distance to be?

Mrs. Paine.

Two car lengths from the opening of the garage to the sidewalk.

Mr. Jenner.

Now where was Lee Oswald when you first saw him?

Mrs. Paine.

He was on the grass just to the east of the driveway.

Mr. Jenner.

Near the driveway just to the east, but he was out in front of your home?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you do then? You proceeded down the street?

Mrs. Paine.

I parked my car, yes; parked my car in its usual position in the driveway.

Mr. Jenner.

In your driveway?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Up close to the garage opening?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And that left you then, you were on the left side or the driving side of your automobile. You got out, did you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Which way? Did you get out to your left or did you swing across the seat and get out at the right hand door?

Mrs. Paine.

I got out on the driver's side, on the left.

Mr. Jenner.

Then what did you do? First tell us what you did. Did you go into your home directly? Did you walk around?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I greeted Lee and Marina, who were both on the front lawn.

Mr. Jenner.

Was their daughter June out in front as well?

Mrs. Paine.

Their daughter June was out in front. It was warm. Lee was playing with June.

Mr. Jenner.

How was he attired?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall specifically.

Mr. Jenner.

You said that he normally wore a T-shirt.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he in a T-shirt or shirt?

Mrs. Paine.

I'd be fairly certain he didn't have a jacket on, but that whatever it was was tucked in.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember the color of his trousers?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now at that point you were surprised to see him?

Mrs. Paine.

I was.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say to him?