Mrs. Paine.

I think it was about 9 o'clock.

Mr. Jenner.

That is when you noticed the light in the garage, around 9 o'clock after you put your children to bed, and at that time Lee was already retired?

Mr. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Marina was still up?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

How long did she remain up?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall that evening from that point on much like any others, with the two of us up, we probably folded some diapers, laundry. Some evening close to that time, either that evening or the one before, we discussed plans for Christmas.

Mr. Jenner.

You and Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. But it was probably the evening before. I was thinking about making a playhouse for the children.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you describe Lee's attire when you. first saw him on the lawn when you returned that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall it.

Mr. Jenner.

You have no recollection of that? Did he bring-do you know whether he brought anything with him in the way of paper or wrapper or luggage or this sticky tape, anything of that nature?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall seeing anything of that nature.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see any paper, wrapping paper, of the character that you have identified around your home that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Mccloy.

Can't you recall a little more clearly how he generally was dressed? Did he have a coat on such as I have got on now, or did he have----

Mrs. Paine.

I never saw him in a suit jacket.

Mr. Mccloy.

Suit jacket? What was his normal outer wear apparel?

Mrs. Paine.

His normal attire was T-shirt, cotton slacks, sometimes the T-shirt covered by a shirt, flannel or cotton shirt.

Mr. Mccloy.

Do you recall whether he had that type of shirt over his T-shirt that night?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall.

Mr. Mccloy.

You don't recall?

Mr. Jenner.

Did -he have any kind of a shirt other than a T-shirt on him when you saw him?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't really remember.

Mr. Jenner.

I wonder, Mr. Chairman, if despite the fact I haven't reached the next day, if we might excuse Mrs. Paine? She did tell me she had an appointment at 5:30 this evening, and I would like to have her think over more so she can be refreshed in the morning as to this particular evening. And, Mrs. Paine, I would have you trace the first thing in the morning as best as you can recall Lee Harvey Oswald's movements that evening and where he was, to the best that you are able to recall. Would you try to do that for us?

Mrs. Paine.

I think I probably have done the best I can, but I will do it again if you like.

Mr. Jenner.

May we have permission to adjourn, Mr. Chairman?

Mr. Mccloy.

Very well.

Mr. Dulles.

Could I ask just one question? With regard to this sketch of the house, I was interested to know where you would see the light in the garage. Was it from out here?

Mrs. Paine.

This is a doorway into the garage from the kitchen area.

Mr. Dulles.

And you saw that light from the kitchen area?

Mrs. Paine.

I think I was probably on my way to the garage anyway, opened the door, there was the light on.

Mr. Dulles.

I see. There are no windows or anything. The door was closed and the light would not be visible if you hadn't gone into it?

Mrs. Paine.

It would be visible if it was dark in here.

Mr. Dulles.

I understand. Through the door.

Representative Ford.

And you spent about a half hour in the garage painting some blocks?