Mr. Jenner.

reply from him on anything. I was just excited about this happening, and there was his response. Nothing more was said about it.

Mr. Dulles.

I didn't quite catch his answer.

Mrs. Paine.

"Ah, yes," a very common answer.

Mr. Jenner.

He gave no more than that laconic answer?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Had there been any discussion between you and Marina that the President was coming into town the next day?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she say anything on that subject in the presence of Lee that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall anything of that sort.

Mr. Jenner.

What time did you have dinner that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

6 or 6:30, I would guess.

Mr. Jenner.

And calling on your recollection, Mrs. Paine, following dinner do you remember any occasion that evening when Lee was out of the house and you didn't see him around the house, and you were conscious of the fact he was not in the house?

Mrs. Paine.

I was not at anytime of the opinion that he was out of the house, conscious of it.

Mr. Jenner.

You have no recollection of his being out of the house anytime that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Dulles.

Did he do any reading that evening--books, papers, anything?

Mrs. Paine.

Not to my recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

What were you doing that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

I have tried already to describe that after dinner, and probably after some dishes were done.

Mr. Jenner.

Who did the dishes?

Mrs. Paine.

Very likely Marina, it depended on who made the meal. I normally cooked the meal and then she did the dishes or we reversed occasionally. But I have tried to say I was very likely involved in the back bedroom and in the bathroom giving the children a bath, getting them in their pajamas and reading a story for as much as an hour.

Mr. Jenner.

That would take as much as an hour?

Mrs. Paine.

That takes as much as an hour.

Mr. Jenner.

By this time we are up to approximately 7:30 or 8 o'clock, are we?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh no; we are up to nearly 9 o'clock by now. We eat from 6:30 to after 7, do some dishes, brings it up toward 8, and then put the children to bed.

Mr. Jenner.

When you had had your children put to bed and came out of their room, was Lee, had he then by that time retired?

Mrs. Paine.

That is my recollection.

Mr. Dulles.

Did you have any words with Marina about the light in the garage? Was that a subject of conversation between you?

Mrs. Paine.

No; we didn't discuss it.

Mr. Dulles.

You didn't mention it to her?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I didn't discuss it.

Representative Ford.

Did he ever help in the kitchen at all, in any way whatsoever?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I have said he once did dishes in New Orleans, but that is about all I recall that he did.

Representative Ford.

But in Dallas, in your home, he never volunteered?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Mccloy.

Marina did help around the house?

Mrs. Paine.

She helped a great deal.

Mr. Mccloy.

She was a good helper?

Mrs. Paine.

She is a hard worker.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell us, the time you came out of the bedroom and put your children to bed when you noticed the light in the garage; fix as well as you can the time of evening.