Mr. Simmons.

Yes; I have copies of these pictures here. I show you three pictures--the first showing the window from which the weapon was fired in our experiments; the second showing the view of the three targets from the window; and the third showing a rifleman in position.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Simmons, did you take these pictures yourself?

Mr. Simmons.

No; these pictures were taken by one of the cameramen from the development and proof services.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you see the scenes represented in these pictures?

Mr. Simmons.

Yes.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Are these pictures accurate reproductions of these scenes

Mr. Simmons.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Chairman, I would like to have the first, second, and third pictures described by Mr. Simmons admitted as exhibits. That will be 579 for the first, 580 for the second, and 581 for the third.

Mr. Mccloy.

They may be admitted.
(The photographs referred to were marked Commission Exhibits Nos. 579, 580, and 581 and received in evidence.)

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Simmons, the targets were well, can you describe the targets for--

Mr. Simmons.

The targets are standard head-and-shoulders silhouettes, and they consist of approximately 2 square feet in area.

Mr. Eisenberg.

How many marksmen were involved?

Mr. Simmons.

We used three riflemen.

Mr. Eisenberg.

And can you tell us what their background was?

Mr. Simmons.

Yes. All three riflemen are rated as Master by the National Rifle Association. Two of them are civilian gunners in the Small Arms Division of our Development and Proof Services, and the third is presently in the Army, and he has considerable background as a rifleman, and also has a Master rating.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Each fired one or more series of three rounds?

Mr. Simmons.

Each fired two series of three rounds, using the telescopic sight. Then one of the firers repeated the exercise using the iron sight--because we had no indication whether the telescope had been used.

Mr. Eisenberg.

So the total number of rounds fired was what?

Mr. Simmons.

21.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you bring with you targets or copies of the targets?

Mr. Simmons.

I brought photos of the targets.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you take these photographs Mr. Simmons, or have them taken under your supervision?

Mr. Simmons.

These photographs were taken by the photographic laboratory in our Ballistic Measurements Laboratory, which is one of the complex of laboratories within the Ballistic Research Laboratory.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Can you verify these photographs as being accurate reproductions of the targets?

Mr. Simmons.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Chairman, may I have these admitted as 582, 583 and 584?

Mr. Mccloy.

They may be admitted.
(The photographs referred to were marked Commission Exhibits Nos. 582, 583, and 584 for identification and received in evidence.)

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Simmons, could you discuss the results of the tests you ran, by using these photographs?

Mr. Simmons.

Exhibit 582 is the target which was emplaced at 175 feet. All firers hit the first target, and this was to be expected, because they had as much time as they desired to aim at the first target.
As you can see from the picture, the accuracy of the weapon is quite good.

Mr. Mccloy.

That first target is what distance?

Mr. Simmons.

175 feet. And we had to make an assumption here about the point of aim. It is quite likely that in fact each man was aiming at a different portion of the target--there were no markings on the target visible to the river.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did I understand you just told the rivers to aim at the target without referring to---

Mr. Simmons.

Yes.