(Testimony of Robert A. Frazier Resumed)
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Mccloy.
And you would say the same thing of Commission Exhibit 399, the bullet 399 was fired from that rifle?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Mccloy.
And the fragment 567---
Mr. Frazier.
567, the one we have just finished.
Mr. Mccloy.
Was likewise a portion of a bullet fired from that rifle?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Mccloy.
You have no doubt about any of those?
Mr. Frazier.
None whatsoever.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Now finally in the category of bullets and bullet fragments, I hand you what is apparently a bullet fragment, which is in a pill box marked Q-3, and which, I state for the record, was also found in the front portion of the President's car, and I ask you whether you are familiar with this item, marked Q-3?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; this was submitted to me as having been found beside the front seat of the automobile.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Your mark is on that fragment?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, it is.
Mr. Eisenberg.
When did you receive that fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. Frazier.
At 11:50 p.m., November 22, 1963, from Special Agent Orrin Bartlett, our liaison agent with the Secret Service, in the FBI laboratory.
Mr. Eisenberg.
And the last bullet fragment you examined, Exhibit 567, when did you receive that?
Mr. Frazier.
It was received at the same time from Special Agent Bartlett.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Did you examine both at that time, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; beginning the following morning, November 23.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Mr. Chairman, may I have this bullet fragment marked Q-3 admitted as Commission 569?
Mr. Mccloy.
It may be admitted.
(The item, identified as Commission Exhibit No. 569, was received in evidence.)
Mr. Eisenberg.
Mr. Frazier, did you examine this bullet fragment with a view to determining whether it had been fired from the rifle, Exhibit 139?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Eisenberg.
What was your conclusion?
Mr. Frazier.
This bullet fragment, Exhibit 569, was fired from this particular rifle, 139.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Again to the exclusion of all other rifles?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Did you weigh this fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, I did. It weighs 21.0 grains.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Can you describe the fragment?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes. It consists of the base or most rearward portion of the jacket of a metal-jacketed bullet, from which the lead core is missing.
Mr. Eisenberg.
How can you tell that it is the most rearward portion?
Mr. Frazier.
It has the shape which bases of bullets have. It has the cannelure which is located at the rear, on the portion of bullets of this type.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Can you determine whether this bullet fragment, 567; and 569 are portions of the originally same bullet?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir.
Mr. Eisenberg.
You cannot?
Mr. Frazier.
There is not enough of the two fragments in unmutilated condition to determine whether or not the fragments actually fit together.
However, it was determined that there is no area on one fragment, such as 567, which would overlap a corresponding area on the base section of 569, so that they could be parts of one bullet, and then, of course, they could be parts of separate bullets.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Now 569 is without the core; is that correct?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Could you estimate how much weight you would add if you had the core?
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