Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, you said before that in order to give this 2-foot lead, you would have to aim 2 inches--for a target going away from you, you would have to aim 2 inches above the target, or in front of the target.

Mr. Frazier.

2 feet in front of the target, which would interpolate into a much lower actual elevation change.

Mr. Eisenberg.

The elevation change would be 2 inches, is that it?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, no. It would be on the order of 6 to 8 inches.

Mr. Eisenberg.

6 to 8 inches?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes.

Mr. Eisenberg.

What was your 2-inch figure?

Mr. Frazier.

I don't recall.

Mr. Eisenberg.

But it is 6 to 8 inches in elevation?

Representative Boggs.

May I ask a question?
Using that telescopic lens, how would you aim that rifle to achieve that distinction?

Mr. Frazier.

Well it would be necessary to hold the crosshairs an estimated distance off the target, of say, 6 inches over the intended, target, so what when the shot was fired the crosshairs should be located about 6 inches over your target, and in the length of time that the bullet was in the air and the length of time the object was moving, the object would move into actually, the path of the bullet in approximately 1/10th to 13/100ths of a second.

Mr. Eisenberg.

So that if the target of the assassin was the center of the President's head, and he wanted to give a correct lead, where would he have aimed, if we eliminate the possibility of errors introduced by other factors?

Mr. Frazier.

He would aim from 4 to 6 inches--approximately 2 inches, I would say, above the President's head, which would be actually 6 inches above his aiming point at the center of the head.

Mr. Eisenberg.

How difficult is it to give this--a lead of this size to this type of target?

Mr. Frazier.

It would not be difficult at all with a telescopic sight, because your target is enlarged four times, and you can estimate very quickly in a telescopic sight, inches or feet or lead of any desired amount.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Would it be substantially easier than it would be with an open or peep sight?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes. It would be much more difficult to do with the open iron sights, the notched rear sight and the blade front sight, which is on Exhibit 139.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, you have been able to calculate the precise amount of lead which should be given, because you have been given figures. If you had been in the assassin's position, and were attempting to give a correct lead, what lead do you think you would have estimated as being the necessary lead?

Mr. Frazier.

It would have been a very small amount, in the neighborhood of a 3-inch lead.

Mr. Eisenberg.

As opposed to the 6 or 8 inches?

Mr. Frazier.

As opposed to about 6 inches, yes.

Mr. Eisenberg.

What would the consequence of the mistake in assumption as to lead be that is, if you gave a 3-inch lead rather than the correct lead?

Mr. Frazier.

It would be a difference of a 3-inch variation in the point of impact on the target.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, if you had aimed at the center of the President's head, and given a 3-inch lead, again eliminating other errors, where would you have hit, if you hit accurately?

Mr. Frazier.

It would be 3 inches below the center of his head--from the top--it would be not the actual Center from the back, but the center would be located high. The bullet would strike at possibly the base of the skull.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, suppose you had given no lead at all and aimed at that target and aimed accurately. Where would the bullet have hit?

Mr. Frazier.

It would hit the base of the neck--approximately 6 inches below the center of the heart.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Frazier, would you have tried to give a lead at all, if you had been in that position?

Mr. Frazier.

At that range, at that distance, 175 to 265 feet, with this rifle