Dr. CARRICO. Again in the emergency situation the nurses removed the clothing after we had initially unbuttoned enough to get a look at him, at his chest, and as the routine is set up, the nurses remove the clothing and we just don't take time to look at it.

Mr. Specter.

Was the President's body then ever turned over at any point by you or any of the other doctors at Parkland?
Dr. CARRICO. No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Was President Kennedy lying on the emergency stretcher from the time he was brought into trauma room one until the treatment at Parkland Hospital was concluded?
Dr. CARRICO. Yes; he was.

Mr. Specter.

At what time was that treatment concluded, to the best of your recollection?
Dr. CARRICO. At about 1 o'clock.

Mr. Specter.

At approximately what time did you leave the trauma room where the President was brought?
Dr. CARRICO. I left right at one when we decided that he was dead.

Mr. Specter.

And did the other doctors leave at the same time or did any remain in the trauma room?
Dr. CARRICO. I left before some of the other doctors, I do not remember specifically who was there. I believe Dr. Baxter was, Dr. Jenkins was still there, I believe. And I think Dr. Perry was.

Mr. Specter.

You have described a number of doctors in the course of your testimony up to this point. Would you state what other doctors were present during the time the President was treated, to the best of your recollection?
Dr. CARRICO. Well, I have already mentioned Dr. Don Curtis, the surgery resident; Martin White, an intern; Dr. Perry was there, Dr. Baxter, Dr. McClelland, a member of the surgery staff; Dr. Ronald Jones, chief surgery resident; Dr. Jenkins, chief of anesthesia; several other physicians whose names I can't remember at the present. Admiral Burkley, I believe was his name, the President's physician, was there as soon as he got to the hospital.

Mr. Specter.

What is your view, Dr. Carrico, as to how many bullets struck the President?
Dr. CARRICO. At the time of the initial examination I really had no view. In view of what we have been told by you, and the Commission, two bullets would be my opinion.

Mr. Specter.

Based on the additional facts which I have asked you to assume
Dr. CARRICO. Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

And also based on the autopsy report from Bethesda--
Dr. CARRICO. Right.

Mr. Specter.

Which was made available to you by me.
Dr. CARRICO. Right.

Mr. Specter.

Now, who, if any one, has talked to you representing the Federal Government in connection with the treatment which you assisted in rendering President Kennedy at Parkland on November 22?
Dr. CARRICO. We have talked to some representatives of the Secret Service, whose names I do not remember.

Mr. Specter.

On how many occasions, if there was more than one?
Dr. CARRICO. Two occasions, a fairly long interview shortly after the President's death, and then approximately a month or so afterwards a very short interview.

Representative Ford.

When you say shortly after the President's death, you mean that day?
Dr. CARRICO. No, sir. Within a week maybe.

Mr. Specter.

And what was the substance of the first interview with the Secret Service which you have described as occurring within 1 week?
Dr. CARRICO. This was a meeting in Dr. Shires office, Dr. Shires, Dr. Perry, Dr. McClelland and myself, and two representatives of the Secret Service in which we went over the treatment.
They discussed the autopsy findings as I recall it, with Dr. Shires, and reviewed the treatment with him, essentially.

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