Mr. Ball.

Down to the point where you spoke to him?

Mr. Callaway.

That is right.

Mr. Ball.

What did he do when you hollered at him?

Mr. Callaway.

He slowed his pace, almost halted for a minute. And he said something to me, which I could not understand. And then kind of shrugged his shoulders, and kept on going.

Mr. Ball.

Show the course he took on the map, if you will.

Mr. Callaway.

All right.
Right on down here, and he cut through this front yard.

Mr. Ball.

And where was he when you last saw him?

Mr. Callaway.

Right here.

Mr. Ball.

Right at that point?

Mr. Callaway.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Now, the first "X" marks the position of the parking lot--we will mark that 1. The place of the taxicab we will mark as 2. The place where the man was with the gun when you yelled at him, we will mark that as 3. The last place you saw the man, that we will mark 4.

Mr. Callaway.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

All right. Now--

Mr. Dulles.

May I ask what course he was taking when you last saw him?

Mr. Callaway.

He was going west on Jefferson Street.

Mr. Dulles.

West on Jefferson Street?

Mr. Callaway.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do?

Mr. Callaway.

I hollered to this guy behind--B. D. Searcy.

Mr. Ball.

What did you say to Mr. Searcy?

Mr. Callaway.

I told him to keep an eye on that guy, I says, "Keep an eye on that guy, follow him. I am going to go down there and see what is going on." So I ran, a good hard run, from here down around the corner.

Mr. Ball.

10th and Patton?

Mr. Callaway.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

When you got there what did you see?

Mr. Callaway.

I saw a squad car, and by that time there was four or five people that had gathered, a couple of cars had stopped. Then I saw--I went on up to the squad car and saw the police officer lying in the street. I see he had been shot in the head. So the first thing I did, I ran over to the squad car. I didn't know whether anybody reported it or not. So I got on the police radio and called them, and told them a man had been shot, told them the location, I thought the officer was dead. They said we know about it, stay off the air, so I went back.
By this time an ambulance was coming. The officer was laying on his left side, his pistol was underneath him. I kind of rolled him over and took his gun out from under him. The people wonder whether he ever got his pistol out of his holster. He did.

Mr. Ball.

The pistol was out of the holster?

Mr. Callaway.

Yes, sir; out of the holster, and it was unsnapped. It was on his right side. He was laying with the gun under him.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do?

Mr. Callaway.

I picked the gun up and laid it on the hood of the squad car, and then someone put it in the front seat of the squad car. Then after I helped load Officer Tippit in the ambulance, I got the gun out of the car and told this cabdriver, I said, "You saw the guy didn't you?" He said, yes.
I said, "If he is going up Jefferson, he can't be very far. Let's see if we can find him." So I went with Scoggins in the taxicab, went up to 10th, Crawford, from Crawford up to Jefferson, and down Jefferson to Beckley. And we turned on Beckley. If we had kept going up Jefferson, we probably--there is a good chance we would have seen him, because he was headed right towards the Texas Theatre. But then we circled around several blocks, and ended up coming back to where it happened.

Mr. Ball.

And the ambulance--had the ambulance been there by that time?

Mr. Callaway.

Oh, yes; the ambulance already left before I ever left with the cabdriver.