Mr. Belin.

When you had your hand down you are putting it in front of your belt?

Mr. Scoggins.

As well as I could remember I had it down kind of like this here. I don't know whether I used my right or my left hand, but I didn't hold up three fingers like this, but I held them down just about like this.

Mr. Belin.

You are pointing to your right hand and putting it somewhat about a few inches above the buckle of your belt; it that about where you held up your fingers?

Mr. Scoggins.

About as well as I could remember.

Mr. Belin.

What happened after you held up your fingers, did someone see you holding your fingers up there?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Representative Ford.

Where were they standing beside you so that they could see your fingers?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, this gentleman was standing over back a piece to my left, sir.

Representative Ford.

Was it close to you, sir?

Mr. Scoggins.

There was one man on my right. He was Secret Service or FBI, I think FBI; and the other man was a policeman, Dallas policeman.

Mr. Dulles.

Do you know whether Mr. Whaley was making his identification at the same time that you did or did he make it before or after?

Mr. Scoggins.

No. All I know is that we viewed them at the same time.

Mr. Dulles.

He viewed them at the same time?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

You don't know at what time Mr. Whaley made his identification?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

You didn't see him make the identification?

Mr. Scoggins.

I didn't even see him.

Mr. Dulles.

You don't know what his identification was?

Mr. Scoggins.

No. I never asked him which one or nothing, because I never did discuss it with him at all after that.

Representative Ford.

When you brought your cab up to the corner of 10th and Patton, did you just conclude or had you just concluded dropping a passenger?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, approximately five minutes before that.

Representative Ford.

Do you keep a record of the trips that you take?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

During your working day?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes, sir. If I pick up a passenger, say, like 28 minutes to 12 o'clock, we put 20 minutes to 12. We don't put the odd minutes down.
If we let him out 2 minutes after 12, we put down 12 o'clock. I know I let him out at 1 o'clock, maybe a minute or two after. We do put the destination we leave from and the destination he is going to on our records sheet.

Representative Ford.

What does your record show about this last trip?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, I picked him up at Love Field and carried him to 321 North Ewing, as well as I can remember now, that was the address.

Representative Ford.

And your record shows that?

Mr. Scoggins.

When I picked him up, the mileage started from, the mileage I let him out on the speedometer. When I picked him up we put the mileage down. We don't put the tenth down, and when we let him out we put the mileage and the time; and when we pick him up we put the mileage and the time, and the destination where we start and where we let him off, and the amount the fare was.

Representative Ford.

And your last entry shows what for that day?

Mr. Scoggins.

I don't know what the last entry was. Up until then that was the one where I let the man off at. It was an apartment building. Of course, l don't have the apartment number, anything like that. The guy says, "I want to go to 321 North Ewing," and that is where I take him. It is an apartment. Of course now, if somebody calls in for a cab at a certain address, if it is an apartment, they have to give their apartment number so we could find it.