Mr. Scoggins.

I didn't see anybody. I was kind of excited.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see any other person walking along the street there?

Mr. Scoggins.

Not at the time of the shooting, I didn't.

Mr. Belin.

Is there anything you can think of that you haven't told us here that might be relevant to what you saw in connection with the Tippit shooting?

Mr. Scoggins.

No, I can't--nothing that I know of. That is the first time I ever seen anything like that happen, and I was pretty well excited and mixed up, and not knowing what to do or what not to do. But actually, of course, right after the shooting, I saw a number of people come running over, you see, from everywhere.

Mr. Belin.

Were they all men?

Mr. Scoggins.

No, they were just people.

Mr. Belin.

General Carr, do you have any questions?

Mr. Carr.

No, sir. I was exploring with him, but I guess we won't get into it.

Mr. Belin.

Those are all the questions I have. Just a second. When you saw a picture in the morning paper of Lee Harvey Oswald, did this look similar to the man you saw at the Tippit shooting, or did it look different?

Mr. Scoggins.

I would say similar; yes.

Mr. Belin.

Did it look like the same man?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Representative Ford.

What kind of eyesight do you have?

Mr. Scoggins.

I had my eyes examined when I went to work for the cab company and the lady said I had remarkable eyesight. You know, they have after I went to work, after a while, I had to go get my eyes examined.

Representative Ford.

You had your eyes examined subsequent to your employment with the cab company?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, it was sometime after, maybe 6 months after.

Mr. Dulles.

How many years ago was that?

Mr. Scoggins.

Oh, about a year, approximately.

Representative Ford.

At that time what did the eye examiner tell you?

Mr. Scoggins.

She said I had excellent eyesight and vision.

Representative Ford.

You don't wear glasses?

Mr. Scoggins.

No.

Representative Ford.

What about your hearing?

Mr. Scoggins.

I can hear. I got good hearing. I never did have it examined or anything, but I can hear everything.

Representative Ford.

Have you ever had any difficulty with the law, have you ever had any trouble with officers of the law?

Mr. Scoggins.

I got a ticket for parking that I had to pay.

Representative Ford.

That is a traffic violation.

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes. No; I really haven't had any problems that amount to anything otherwise than traffic violations.

Representative Ford.

Nothing other than traffic violations?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, I was picked up one time in New York City for stowing away on a tugboat.

Mr. Belin.

Stowing away on a boat?

Mr. Scoggins.

Actually what happened--

Mr. Dulles.

How old were you then?

Mr. Scoggins.

17 or 18. I was sleeping in a boxcar and they put that boxcar on a tugboat and sent it across the river.

Mr. Dulles.

You stowed away without knowing it.

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

I don't think that is a very grave offense.

Mr. Scoggins.

No. I never have been in any grave trouble.

Mr. Belin.

One more question, Mr. Scoggins. You rode up here to Washington on an airplane with Mrs. Markham, did you not?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Before you saw Mrs. Markham the other day, did you ever recognize her as having seen her from the time of the Tippit shooting at all or not?