Mr. Scoggins.

He was on the sidewalk when I saw him, about, I would say, about--I am trying to figure out now--about number 21 or back a little piece from 21.

Mr. Belin.

Here is the squad car and 21 would be just east of the squad car?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

All right. You saw him there?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

What was he doing when you saw him in the area of 21 in Exhibit 523?

Mr. Scoggins.

He was proceeding west on 10th and had--

Mr. Belin.

All right. I wonder if you would just take this pen and on Exhibit 523 mark the route that you think this man took.

Mr. Scoggins.

This is a sidewalk here.

Mr. Belin.

That is the sidewalk.

Mr. Scoggins.

This is the house back here.

Mr. Belin.

This is the corner house, this is the second house, this is the third house, 400, 404 and 410.

Mr. Dulles.

What does that line show, Mr. Belin?

Mr. Belin.

This is to show the movement of the man from point 21.

Mr. Dulles.

Along the sidewalk going west?

Mr. Belin.

Yes.

Mr. Scoggins.

He ran to the point in the shrubbery.

Mr. Belin.

Is that as far as you have seen him go?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

You have now marked by ink line commencing on Exhibit 523 to a point that I will mark is the route that you believe you saw the man take. Where were you when you saw him take this route?

Mr. Scoggins.

When I first saw him coming, you see, over here, I got out of my cab and I started to cross the street to find a place to get behind, and I got midway across the street, and then I got back and hid behind the cab. I didn't see him in here, but I saw him when he hit the shrubbery, when he hit that shrubbery.

Mr. Belin.

There is an opening in part of that shrubbery?

Mr. Scoggins.

Yes, and I heard that when he hit that, and he was looking over his left shoulder at that time. I first saw him and then I got out--

Mr. Belin.

I wonder if you would show us on Exhibit 531, if you would put an X there, the approximate location you were when you saw this man.

Mr. Scoggins.

When I first saw him?

Mr. Belin.

No; when you first--yes, you can put where you first saw him.

Mr. Scoggins.

I was sitting inside my cab when I first saw him.

Mr. Belin.

I mean after the shooting.

Mr. Scoggins.

After the shooting I guess when I first saw him, right along about here.

Mr. Belin.

All right, we are going to put--you had gotten out of your car, and we are going to put a letter "A" with an arrow there. Where were you when you saw him coming through the bushes, or by the bushes?

Mr. Scoggins.

I was back there beside my cab.

Mr. Belin.

You were still at that same point?

Mr. Scoggins.

No, when I first saw him I left the cab and I went out to the middle of the street.

Mr. Belin.

Where were you when you first saw him and he was at the point you marked, position 21 here on Exhibit 523?

Mr. Scoggins.

Here.

Mr. Belin.

At point "A." Then you went to the--you went out to the street, in the street, and came back to point "A" on Exhibit 531--were you standing or were you crouched?

Mr. Scoggins.

I was kind of crouched down behind the cab.

Mr. Belin.

All right. How did you see him if you were crouched?

Mr. Scoggins.

Well, whenever he run through those bushes I looked up again, you see.

Mr. Belin.

You looked through your cab window?