Mrs. Paine.

I said "here" and gave her the phone.

Mr. Jenner.

You didn't say "where are you", or "I am glad to hear from you, where have you been?"

Mrs. Paine.

No I thought that was her's to ask. He wished to speak to her and I gave her the phone and, of course, that is what was then asked. I heard her say to him.--

Mr. Jenner.

You heard her side of the conversation, did you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. What did you hear her say?

Mrs. Paine.

I heard her say, "No, Mrs. Paine, she can't come and pick you up."

Mr. Jenner.

Was she speaking in Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Throughout?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

When Lee asked for Marina, did he speak in English or Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall. And Marina went on to say that Mrs. Paine, "Ruth has just been to Parkland Hospital this morning to donate blood, she shouldn't be going driving now to pick you up."

Mr. Jenner.

Did she refer to you as Mrs. Paine or Ruth?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I am trying to make it clear who is being talked about.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. You might give your testimony the wrong cast.

Mrs. Paine.

No; of course. She referred to me as "Ruth" or "she".
To Junie, she called me Aunt Ruth. To Junie, speaking of me to her little girl, she referred to me as Aunt Ruth.

Mr. Jenner.

You are giving the conversation now, the end of it that you heard?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. Then I heard Marina say "Why didn't you call?"

Mr. Jenner.

You did hear her say that?

Mrs. Paine.

I believe so. I certainly remember her saying it afterward. She hung up and she explained the conversation to me.

Mr. Jenner.

What did she say to you?

Mrs. Paine.

That he had asked for me to come in to downtown Dallas to pick him up and she said no; he should find his own way.

Mr. Jenner.

To come to downtown Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

To come to downtown Dallas to pick him up, and she never asked me whether I wanted to or would have, told him, no; it was an imposition, that I had just given blood at Parkland Hospital.

Mr. Jenner.

And you had in fact given blood?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, yes; indeed.

Mr. Jenner.

That morning?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, I have a card or the FBI does to that effect. Then she said that he had said that he was at the Y, staying at the Y, and had been in town a couple of days, to which she said, "Why didn't you call right away?", in other words, "why didn't you call right away upon getting to town?"
Then he also asked whether he could come out; this was, of course, during the conversation, and she referred the question to me, could he come out for the weekend, and I said, yes, he could.

Mr. Jenner.

This was while she was still talking on the telephone?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. Prior to his asking for a ride. So then they hung up and I went grocery shopping, and when--

Mr. Jenner.

You left the home?

Mrs. Paine.

I left the home.

Mr. Jenner.

You have now exhausted your recollection as to everything that was said to you by Marina after she hung up and was relating to you, at least a summary of the conversation with her husband?

Mrs. Paine.

I believe it was also said that he wanted to look for work in Dallas. He was here, staying at the Y. Could he come out for the weekend. He planned to look for work in Dallas.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.
Did you say anything about--were you stimulated to say anything to Marina