Mrs. Paine.

She is, you have to drive. You have to drive to her home. She is the young German woman to whom I referred.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. Was there any discussion during this 10-day period of Marina's relations with her husband, Lee?

Mrs. Paine.

Not that I recall.

Mr. Jenner.

She expressed no concern during this 10-day period, that no word had been heard from Lee?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he evidence any--did she do or say anything during that period to indicate she did not expect to hear from him during that 10 days period?

Mrs. Paine.

No; she did not.

Mr. Jenner.

There was nothing?

Mrs. Paine.

There was nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

Did it come to your mind that it was curious you hadn't heard from Lee Harvey Oswald for 10 whole days?

Mrs. Paine.

No; it didn't seem curious. I know he had spent at least 2 weeks looking for work on previous occasions in different cities and I thought he wanted to find something before he communicated.

Mr. Jenner.

But in view of the affection that had been evidenced on the day of departure on the 23d, You were not bothered by the fact that not even a telephone call had been received in 10 days?

Mrs. Paine.

If he was not in town I wouldn't have at all expected a telephone call because that would have cost him dearly.

Mr. Jenner.

He might have made it collect.

Mrs. Paine.

I didn't expect that either.

Mr. Jenner.

But there was no telephone call, there was no postcard, there was no letter.

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

There was nothing?

Mrs. Paine.

There could well have been a letter but there was none.

Mr. Dulles.

Where did you think he was at this time?

Mrs. Paine.

Houston.

Mr. Dulles.

Houston, looking for a job? Houston?

Mrs. Paine.

Houston, possibly.

Mr. Jenner.

Because of the conversation on the morning of the 23d, because of the possibility of his going to Houston or Philadelphia, your frame of mind was that he was either in Houston or Philadelphia?

Mrs. Paine.

I thought he probably was in Houston. The Philadelphia reference was very slight.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any reference or discussion between you and Marina during that period of the possibility that he was off in Houston looking for work?

Mrs. Paine.

No, there was not.

Mr. Jenner.

You are sure there was just no discussion of the subject at all during that whole 10 days period with Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall any discussion of it.

Mr. Jenner.

She expressed no concern and you none?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

That nobody had heard from Lee.
All right.
You heard from him on the 4th of October?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you give the Commission the circumstances, the time of day and how it came about?

Mrs. Paine.

He telephoned in early afternoon, something after lunchtime.

Mr. Jenner.

The phone rang. Did you answer it?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And did you recognize the voice?

Mrs. Paine.

He asked to speak to Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

Whose voice was it?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, after he asked to speak to Marina, I was certain it was Lee's.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say?