Mr. Baker.

He looked like he did not have the same on.
Senator COOPER. Did you say when you first saw this man walking away from you in the lunchroom, walking away in the opposite direction, that you said for him to come toward you.

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.
Senator COOPER. Did he turn around?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, air; he did.

Mr. Dulles.

The officer testified he had a pistol in his hand at that time, Officer Baker?
Senator COOPER. He did have a pistol in his hand?

Mr. Baker.

I had the pistol.

Mr. Dulles.

Officer Baker had a pistol in his hand.
Senator COOPER. I see. Did he move toward you?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; he did.
Senator COOPER. Was there anything about his appearance that was unusual?

Mr. Baker.

No, Sir. Whenever I called to him, well he turned around and I had my gun in my hand, you know, and he started walking back towards me and I walked to meet him, and I met him at that doorway over there and about that time Mr. Truly who had started on up the stairs and then he came back, he found that I wasn't with him, came back, and walked up there aside of him and just about the time we met all three of us got there together and I turned to Mr. Truly and I asked him, and I said, "Do you know this man? Does he work here?"
And he said, "Yes," and that is whenever I turned and went on up the stairs. At that time he didn't say a word, he didn't change the expression or nothing on him.

Mr. Dulles.

You testified, I believe, that he did not seem to be out of breath?

Mr. Baker.

That is right, sir.
Senator COOPER. He did not show any evidence of any emotion?

Mr. Baker.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. Did you see anyone else while you were in the building, other than this man you have identified later as Oswald, and Mr. Truly?

Mr. Baker.

On the first floor there were two men. As we came through the main doorway to the elevators, I remember as we tried to get on the elevators I remember two men, one was sitting on this side and another one between 20 or 30 feet away from us looking at us.

Mr. Dulles.

Were they white men?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Officer Baker, we have an exhibit here 362 showing the first floor of the School Book Depository Building, and the top part of the exhibit is south.

It is a little bit upside down from the usual top being north.
You will notice here the stairway in the front of the building.

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

And then there is a glass swinging door which I believe is shown there.
Could you mark the point at which you believe you were when you called out for someone to tell you where the stairway or elevator was?

Mr. Baker.

Is that the steps on the outside and this is the----

Mr. Belin.

These are the steps on the outside, this is the door, the first door and this is kind of the main lobby here, below the words "Main Entrance."

Mr. Baker.

Well, as you come up the steps, there is a glass door here in front of the building.

Mr. Belin.

Pardon me, this will be the recessed glass door right here swinging?

Mr. Baker.

All of this is the lobby.

Mr. Belin.

Yes, that is all the lobby.

Mr. Baker.

OK. This is the first door that you open to get in.

Mr. Belin.

Yes.

Mr. Baker.

And this is the lobby.

Mr. Belin.

Yes.

Mr. Baker.

And then you have another set of glass doors.