Mr. Dulles.

right behind the President's car that followed it, I think 6 or 7 feet right behind the President's car

Mr. Baker.

That was the Secret Service car.

Mr. Dulles.

That is right. Were you in that gap between the two cars or what?

Mr. Baker.

No, sir; I was, it seemed to me like, there was this car.

Mr. Dulles.

When you say "this car" what do you mean?

Mr. Baker.

That Secret Service car.

Mr. Dulles.

The Secret Service car right behind the President?

Mr. Baker.

And there was one more car in there.

Mr. Dulles.

Behind that?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

That was the Vice President's car, wasn't it?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

And then?

Mr. Baker.

There were four press cars carrying the press and I was right at the side of that last one.

Representative Boggs.

The last press car?

Mr. Dulles.

The last press car?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

So you were roughly how far behind the President's car at this stage?

Mr. Baker.

Sometimes we got, at this stage we were possibly a half block.

Mr. Dulles.

A half block?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir; as I say as I turned the corner the front of it was turning the corner at Elm Street.

Mr. Belin.

You mean as you were turning right from Main on to Houston Street heading north onto Houston, the President's car had already turned to the left off Houston heading down that entrance to the expressway, is that correct?

Mr. Baker.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
I believe pardon me, Mr. Dulles, does that answer your question?

Mr. Dulles.

That answers my question. I wanted to see where he was.

Mr. Belin.

You said you were going down Main Street at around Record at from 5 to 10 miles an hour?

Mr. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
Will you take up your trip from there, please?

Mr. Baker.

As we approached the corner there of Main and Houston we were making a right turn, and as I came out behind that building there, which is the county courthouse, the sheriff building, well, there was a strong wind hit me and I almost lost my balance.

Mr. Belin.

How fast would you estimate the speed of your motorcycle as you turned the corner, if you know?

Mr. Baker.

I would say--it wasn't very fast. I almost lost balance, we were just creeping along real slowly.

Mr. Dulles.

That is turning from Main into Houston?

Mr. Baker.

That is right, sir.

Mr. Belin.

You turned-do you have any actual speed estimate as you turned that corner at all or just you would say very slow?

Mr. Baker.

I would say from around 5 to 6 or 7 miles an hour, because you can't hardly travel under that and you know keep your balance.

Mr. Belin.

From what direction was the wind coming When it hit you?

Mr. Baker.

Due north.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
Now, tell us what happened after you turned on to Houston Street?

Mr. Baker.

AS I got myself straightened up there, I guess it took me some 20, 30 feet, something like that, and it was about that time that I heard these shots come out.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
Could you just tell us what you heard and what you saw and what you did?