(Testimony of James , Jr. Jarman)
Mr. Ball.
Was there any reason why you should go to the fifth floor any more than the fourth or the sixth?
Mr. Jarman.
No.
Mr. Ball.
Did you know who made the suggestion you go to the fifth floor?
Mr. Jarman.
Well, I don't know if it was myself or Hank.
Mr. Ball.
When you got there was there anybody on the fifth floor?
Mr. Jarman.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
What did you do when you got to the fifth floor?
Mr. Jarman.
We got out the elevator and pulled the gate down. That was in case somebody wanted to use it. Then we went to the front of the building, which is on the south side, and raised the windows.
Mr. Ball.
Which windows did you raise?
Mr. Jarman.
Well, Harold raised the first window to the east side of the building, and I went to the second rear windows and raised, counting the windows, it would be the fourth one.
Mr. Ball.
It would be the fourth window?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Did somebody join you then?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes, sir; a few minutes later.
Mr. Ball.
Who joined you?
Mr. Jarman.
Bonnie Ray Williams.
Mr. Ball.
And where did he stand or sit?
Mr. Jarman.
He took the window next to Harold Norman.
Mr. Ball.
I show you a picture which is 480, a picture of the Texas School Book Depository Building. Can you show me the window before which you were standing and out of which you were looking?
Mr. Jarman.
This window here.
Mr. Ball.
It is marked W on this picture. Where was Harold Norman, the window out of which Harold Norman was looking?
Mr. Jarman.
He was first right here.
Mr. Ball.
That is the one marked with a red arrow?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Where was Bonnie Ray Williams?
Mr. Jarman.
Bonnie Ray Williams was in this one.
Mr. Ball.
Next to the window of Norman, is that right?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Was--
Mr. Belin.
What exhibit is that?
Mr. Ball.
That is 480. This is 482. You recognize those two pictures?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Who are they?
Mr. Jarman.
Harold Norman and Bonnie Ray Williams.
Mr. Ball.
Now the other day you went up to the fifth floor of the Texas State School Book Depository with me and a photographer, and had your picture taken, did you not?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
And what did I ask you to do before the picture was taken?
Mr. Jarman.
To try to get in the same position that we were the day the assassination was.
Mr. Ball.
And did you do that?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes, sir. We tried to the best of our knowledge.
Mr. Ball.
I have a picture here I would like to have marked as Commission Exhibit 494.
Mr. Mccloy.
It is so marked.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 494 for identification.)
Mr. Ball.
Is that your picture?
Mr. Jarman.
Yes, sir:
Mr. Ball.
Taken last Friday afternoon, March 20th, is that right?
Mr. Jarman.
yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Now does it or does it not show your position at about the time, as you were watching the President's motorcade go by?
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