(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)
Mr. Jenner.
or the copy or call attention to the original or the copy with respect to the FBI.
Mrs. Paine.
Prior.
Mr. Jenner.
Prior to the 23d did you say?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Mr. Jenner.
And what led you to hold onto this rather provocative document?
Mrs. Paine.
It is a rather provocative document. It provoked my doubts about this fellow's normalcy more than it provoked thoughts that this was the talk of an agent reporting in. But I wasn't sure.
I of course made no--I didn't know him to be a violent person, had no thought that he had this trait, possibility in him, absolutely no connection with the President's coming. If I had, hindsight is so much better, I would, certainly have called the FBI's attention to it. Supposing that I had?
Mr. Jenner.
If the FBI had returned, Mrs. Paine, as you indicated during the course of your meeting with the FBI November 1, would you have disclosed this document to the FBI?
Mrs. Paine.
Oh, I certainly think so. This was not something I was at all comfortable in having even.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you expecting the FBI to return?
Mrs. Paine.
I did expect them to come back. As I say, I had said that Lee was here on weekends and so forth. It might have been a good time to give them this document. But as far as I knew, and I know now certainly, they had not seen him and they were still interested in seeing him.
Representative Ford.
How did you copy the note?
Mrs. Paine.
Handwritten.
Representative Ford.
Handwritten?
Mrs. Paine.
I perhaps should put in here that Lee told me, and I only reconstructed this a few weeks ago, that he went, after I gave him--from the first visit of the FBI agent I took down the agent's name and the number that is in the telephone book to call the FBI, and I gave this to Lee the weekend he came.
Mr. Jenner.
You gave it to Lee?
Mrs. Paine.
I gave it to Lee.
Mr. Jenner.
What weekend was that?
Mrs. Paine.
I am told that came out on the 1st of November, so that would have been the weekend of the 2d, the next day.
Mr. Jenner.
You have your calendar there. The 1st of November is what day of the week?
Mrs. Paine.
It is a Friday. Then. he told me, it must have been the following weekend, that same weekend of the 9th.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he say anything when you gave him Agent Hosty's name on the telephone?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Nothing at all?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall anything Lee said. I will go on as to the recollections that came later. He told me that he had stopped at the downtown office of the FBI and tried to see the agents and left a note. And my impression of it is that this notice irritated.
Mr. Jenner.
Irritating?
Mrs. Paine.
Irritated, that he left the note saying what he thought. This is reconstructing my impression of the fellows bothering him and his family, and this is my impression then. I couldn't say this was specifically said to him later.
Mr. Jenner.
You mean he was irritated?
Mrs. Paine.
He was irritated and he said, "They are trying to inhibit my activities," and I said, "You passed your pamphlets," and could well have gone on to say what I thought, but I don't believe I did go on to say, that he could and should expect the FBI to be interested in him.
He had gone to the Soviet Union, intended to become a citizen there, and come back. He had just better adjust himself to being of interest to them for years to come.
Mr. Jenner.
What did he say to that?
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