Mr. Williams.

Then we had to move the cartons.
As we go we would move cartons to vacate the space, so we could lay the floor.

Mr. Ball.

On November 22d, what time did you go to work?

Mr. Williams.

November 22d, I went to work at 8 o'clock.

Mr. Ball.

Were you late or on time that morning?

Mr. Williams.

I believe I was on time that morning. I always get there a little before eight.

Mr. Ball.

Did you know Lee Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Williams.

I didn't know him personally, but I had seen him working. Never did say anything to anyone. He never did put him serf in any position to say anything to anyone.
He just went about his work. He never said anything to me. I never said anything to him.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever have lunch with him?

Mr. Williams.

No.
The only time he would come into the lunchroom sometimes and eat a sandwich maybe, and then he would go for a walk, and he would go out. And I assume he would come back. But the only other time he would come in and read a paper or nothing, and laugh and leave again.

Mr. Dulles.

But he would never say good morning or good evening?

Mr. Williams.

He never would speak to anyone. He was just a funny fellow. I don't know what kind of a fellow he was.

Mr. Ball.

Did you notice what he read in the newspaper?

Mr. Williams.

I believe one morning I noticed he was reading something about politics, and as he was reading this he acted like it was funny to him. He would read a paragraph or two, smile, or laugh, then throw the paper down and get up and walk out.

Representative Ford.

Where did this go on?

Mr. Williams.

This was going on in what we call the domino room. This is where we would eat our lunch and play dominoes. Some fellow would bring newspapers, to read the sports or something. He never would read the sports.

Mr. Ball.

The domino room is a little recreation room on the first floor?

Mr. Williams.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Ball.

Now, you see the map there which has been marked Commission Exhibit 362. Will you point on that map the location of the domino room?

Mr. Dulles.

Would it be easier if we put the map up there, and then everybody could see.

Mr. Williams.

In the front entrance I could explain the way I know the best.
As I said, this would be the main entrance from Elm Street. Well, this would be the domino room is in the same line with Mr. Shelley's office, and Mr. Truly's office. The domino room would be right in here. Because two bathrooms, a large one and a small one right in this vicinity here.

Mr. Ball.

That is marked on the map-the domino room is marked on the map as rec room, and the toilet is shown there?

Mr. Williams.

Yes, sir. And there is a small one on the other side.

Mr. Ball.

That is on Exhibit 362.

Mr. Dulles.

What floor is this we are looking at now?

Mr. Williams.

That is the first floor.

Representative Ford.

And it was in the rec room or domino room where you saw Oswald read the paper on this occasion?

Mr. Williams.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

And you said he read some of it to you and smiled about it?.

Mr. Williams.

No; he didn't read it to me. We were waiting turns to play dominoes, and I happened to glance over. And I just noticed what he was reading.

Mr. Ball.

Now, this morning, did you see Oswald on the floor at any time?

Mr. Williams.

This morning of November 22d?

Mr. Ball.

22d.

Mr. Williams.

The morning of November 22d Oswald was on the floor. The only time I saw him that morning was a little after eight, after I had started