Mr. Brennan.

No; not after I saw the motorcade, I did not observe a man or rifle in the window.

Mr. Belin.

Did you observe the window at all until after you heard that first sound which was a backfire or firecracker, at least you thought it was?

Mr. Brennan.

No.

Mr. Belin.

So you did not observe the window and would not know whether or not there was any man in the window during that period?

Mr. Brennan.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Well, let the record be clear. The first sound you first thought was what?

Mr. Brennan.

Backfire of a motorcycle.

Mr. Belin.

And then you later said something about a firecracker.
Did that have reference to the first shot, or something in between the first and last?

Mr. Brennan.

I positively thought that the first shot was a backfire of a motorcycle. And then something made me think that someone was throwing firecrackers from the Texas Book Store, and a possibility it was the second shot. But I glanced up or looked up and I saw this man taking aim for his last shot. The first shot and last shot is my only positive recollection of two shots.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did you see the rifle explode? Did you see the flash of what was either the second or the third shot?

Mr. Brennan.

No.

Mr. Mccloy.

Could you see that he had discharged the rifle?

Mr. Brennan.

No. For some reason I did not get an echo at any time. The first shot was positive and clear and the last shot was positive and dear, with no echo on my part.

Mr. Mccloy.

Yes.

But you saw him aim?

Mr. Brennan.

Yes.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did you see the rifle discharge, did you see the recoil or the flash?

Mr. Brennan.

No.

Mr. Mccloy.

But you heard the last shot.

Mr. Brennan.

The report; yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

Could you see who or what he was aiming at? You testified as to the declination of the rifle, the angle of the rifle. But could you see what

he was firing at?

Mr. Brennan.

Subconsciously I knew what he was firing at. But immediately I looked towards where President Kennedy's car should be, and there was something obstructing my view. I could not see the President or his car at that time.
And I still don't know what was obstructing my view, because I was high enough that I should have been able to see it. I could not see it.

Mr. Belin.

Mr. Brennan, on one of your interviews with the FBI, they record a statement that you estimated your distance between the point you were seated and the window from which the shots were fired as approximately 90 yards.
At that time did you make that statement to the FBI--and this would be on 22 November. To the best of your recollection?

Mr. Brennan.

There was a mistake in the FBI recording there. He had asked me the question of how far the shot was fired from too, and also he had asked me the question of how far I was from the shot that was fired. I calculated the distance at the angle his gun was resting that he must have been firing 80 to 90 yards. Now, I--

Mr. Belin.

You mean 80 or 90 yards from where?

Mr. Brennan.

From Kennedy's position.

Mr. Belin.

But could you see Kennedy's position?

Mr. Brennan.

No; I could not. But I could see before and after.

Mr. Belin.

In that same interview, you stated that you attended a lineup at the Dallas Police Department at which you picked Lee Harvey Oswald as the person most closely resembling the man you observed with the rifle in the