Mr. Brennan.

But I don't recall this window at the time of the shooting being that low.

Mr. Belin.

Now, by this window you are pointing to the window on the sixth floor?

Mr. Brennan.

Right.

Mr. Belin.

On Exhibit 481. I wonder if you would mark that with the letter "A"--if you would circle that window. And could you put an "A" on that, if you would.
Now, window A, on Exhibit 481, when you saw it, how high do you believe it was open?

Mr. Brennan.

I believe that at the time he was firing, it was open just like this.

Mr. Belin.

Just like the windows on the fifth floor immediately below?

Mr. Brennan.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

I note in window "A" there appear to be some boxes in the window. To the best of your recollection, what is the fact as to whether or not those boxes as shown in this exhibit appear to be similar to the ones you saw on November 22?

Mr. Brennan.

No; I could see more boxes.

Mr. Belin.

In the window or behind time window?

Mr. Brennan.

Behind the window.

Mr. Belin.

I am talking in the window itself.

Mr. Brennan.

No, no. That is--I don't remember a box in the window, these boxes I remember are stacked up behind the window, and they were zigzagged, kind of step down, and there was a space it looked like back of here.

Mr. Belin.

Now, you are pointing to a space which would be on the east side, is that right?

Mr. Brennan.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

When you say you don't remember

Mr. Brennan.

Well, I can see those boxes there now. I don't know whether you can see them or not. It seems like I can see the boxes in that picture.
Am I right?

Mr. Belin.

I don't know, sir. I can't see them on Exhibit 471. That could be the dirty window here.

Mr. Brennan.

Here they are here. Those boxes there.

Mr. Belin.

Well, here is Exhibit 482.

First of all, I see a box on Exhibit 482, right in the window.

Mr. Brennan.

Yes; I don't recall that box.

Mr. Belin.

Do you recall that it definitely was not there, or just you don't recall whether it was or was not there.

Mr. Brennan.

I do not recall that being there. So, therefore, I could not say it definitely wasn't there.

Mr. Belin.

You cannot say whether it was or was not?

Mr. Brennan.

No.

Mr. Belin.

On Exhibit 482, do you want to point an arrow to where you believe you can see boxes back there. Or where you saw boxes.
All right.
Let the record show that Exhibits 480, 481, and 482 were taken by, I believe it is, Underwood or--just a second. Thomas C. Dillard, Chief Photographer of the Dallas Morning News, who was riding in the car with Robert H. Jackson, who has already testified before the Commission, and the deposition of Mr. Dillard will be taken by Mr. Ball and me in Dallas in the first part of April.
And that Exhibits 480, 481, and 482 were taken shortly after the firing of the third shot. I think that this should appear in the record.
I think it should also appear in the record that Exhibit 479 is one of the frames from the Abraham Zapruder movie film.
Mr. Brennan, from the time you first saw the Presidential motorcade turning north on Houston from Main, did you observe the window from which you say you saw the last shot fired at any time prior to the time you saw the rifle in the window?

Mr. Brennan.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Well, what I am saying is this. You saw the motorcade turn?