(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)
Mrs. Paine.
FBI protection', that is, she could (refuse to return to the-crossed out) defect from the Soviet Union. Of course I and my wife strongly protested these tactics by the notorious FBI.
"(It was unfortunate that the Soviet Embassy was unable to aid me in Mexico City but-crossed out) I had not planned to contact the Mexico City Embassy at all so of course they were unprepared for me. Had I been able to reach Havana as planned (I could have contacted--crossed out) the Soviet Embassy there (for the completion of would have been able to help me get the necessary documents I required assist me crossed out ) would have had time to assist me, but of course the stuip Cuban consule was at fault here. I am glad he has since been replaced by another."
Mr. Jenner.
Now I would like to ask you a few questions about your reaction to that. You had read that in the quiet of your living room on Sunday morning, the 10th of November.
Mrs. Paine.
That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
And there were a number of things in that that you thought were untrue.
Mrs. Paine.
Several things I knew to be untrue.
Mr. Jenner.
You knew to be untrue. Were there things in there that alarmed you?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; I would say so.
Mr. Jenner.
What were they?
Mrs. Paine.
To me this--well, I read it and decided to make a copy.
Mr. Jenner.
Would having the document back before you help you?
Mrs. Paine.
No, no. I was just trying to think what to say first. And decided that I should have such a copy to give to an FBI agent coming again, or to call. I was undecided what to do. Meantime I made a copy.
Mr. Jenner.
But you did have the instinct to report this to the FBI?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And you made a copy of the document?
Mrs. Paine.
And I made a copy of the document which should be among your papers, because they have that too. And after having made it, while the shower was running, I am not used to subterfuge in any way, but then I put it back where it had been and it lay the rest of Sunday on my desk top, and of course I observed this too.
Mr. Jenner.
That is that Lee didn't put it away, just left it out in the room?
Mrs. Paine.
That he didn't put it away or didn't seem to care or notice or didn't recall that he had a rough draft lying around. I observed it was untrue that the FBI was no longer interested in him. I observed it was untrue that the FBI came--
Mr. Jenner.
Why did you observe that that was untrue?
Mrs. Paine.
Well, the FBI came and they asked me, they said--
Mr. Jenner.
Had the FBI been making inquiries of you prior to that time?
Mrs. Paine.
They had been twice.
Mr. Jenner.
November 1 and--
Mrs. Paine.
November 1, and they told me the 5. I made no record of it whatever.
Mr. Jenner.
But it was a few days later?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; a few days later. And the first visit I understood to be a visit to convey to Marina that if any blackmail pressure was being put upon her, because of relatives back home, that she was invited, if she wished, to talk about this to the FBI. This is a far cry from being told she could defect from the Soviet Union, very strong words, and false both.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever hear anything at all insofar as the FBI is concerned reported to you by Marina or Lee Harvey Oswald during all of your acquaintance with either of them of any suggestion by the FBI or anybody else that Marina defect in that context to the United States?
Mrs. Paine.
No, absolutely not.
Mr. Jenner.
Or anything of similar import?
Mrs. Paine.
Nothing of similar import.
Mr. Jenner.
I limited it to the FBI. Any agency of the Government of the United States?
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