Not anyone. He mentioned a friend in Houston as I have already testified, no name and I was wondering whether there was any such friend, I recall that. That is absolutely the only reference I can recall.
Senator COOPER. You said that you told someone that Marina did not agree with his political views?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. How did you know that?

Mrs. Paine.

She told me she wasn't interested in politics. She told me indeed that Lee complained about her lack of interest.
Senator COOPER. That is something different from saying that she didn't agree with them.

Mrs. Paine.

Well, she did say that she didn't like his having passed out leaflets in New Orleans. This is still different from saying she disagreed, though. But that is the most I can say.
Senator COOPER. Did she ever tell her what her political views were, if any?

Mrs. Paine.

She said she didn't consider herself a person interested in politics. She--
Senator COOPER. Did she ever refer to Lee being a Marxist or a Communist?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall such a reference ever.
Senator COOPER. Did she ever tell you whether or not she was a Marxist or a Communist?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I assumed she was not either.
Senator COOPER. What?

Mrs. Paine.

I assumed she was not either. She did at one point poke fun at the Party faithful who attended a Young Communist meeting in Minsk, whom she considered a dull lot and the meetings quite dull.
Senator COOPER. I missed the early part of your testimony so you may have testified to this, but I thought that I recalled that you did answer a question addressed to you by someone, a member of the Commission or counsel, in which you said that you were attracted to the Oswalds when you first met them, one, because you wanted to perfect your own Russian, and did you say, too, that you were interested because of the fact that he had been a defector and had returned and it was an unusual circumstance which interested you?

Mrs. Paine.

It made him an odd person.
Senator COOPER. What?

Mrs. Paine.

It made him an odd person. I was interested in the curious sense of what could have motivated him to do this.
Senator COOPER. Having that interest, didn't you ever talk to him about it, inquire about his experience?

Mrs. Paine.

I guess I wasn't interested enough.
Senator COOPER. What led him to do it?

Mrs. Paine.

And as I have already testified he always wanted to speak Russian to me, which shortens my tongue. I can't say as much or raise as many questions.
Senator COOPER. Well, did you try to search out the reasons for his defection and the reasons for returning?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I didn't.
Senator COOPER And his political views, his economic views, that kind of thing?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I regret now that I didn't take any interest, but I did not.
Senator COOPER. You said that, in answer to counsel that, you either did tell people or probably told them that you believed Lee Oswald was a Communist.

Mrs. Paine.

It is my impression I spoke of him as he spoke of himself as a Marxist.
Senator COOPER. And you think, you believe, that has some relationship to communism?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh; yes.
Senator COOPER. I think you have stated that you didn't believe it was necessary for a person to actually be a member of the Communist Party to be a Communist in his views?

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