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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 127« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
And also that he did not wish his wife to learn to speak English?
Mrs. Paine.
I would judge that I did.
Mr. Jenner.
And that Marina did not wish to return to Russia?
Mrs. Paine.
That is correct.
Senator COOPER. While you are getting your papers together can I ask a few questions?
Mr. Jenner.
Surely.
Senator COOPER. I refer to November 22 when the police came and you and Marina went into the garage with the police, you testified about that. Then you discovered that there wasn't anything in the blanket.
Now, at a later time, I believe you testified that the police showed Marina a rifle and asked her if she could identify this rifle that she had seen in Lee's possession.
What did she say about it?
Mrs. Paine.
She said that her husband's rifle had been a dark gun, that she was not certain that that was the one. That she could not absolutely recall whether there had been a telescopic sight on his gun or not.
Senator COOPER. Was she speaking in Russian?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Senator COOPER. Were you translating?
Mrs. Paine.
No, Mr. Mamantov.
Senator COOPER. Were you following what she said?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; indeed.
Senator COOPER. How did she designate the sight? What words?
Mrs. Paine.
It is a Russian word that sounded to me like binocular, as I recall.
Senator COOPER. Did she refer to it as a sighting device not in the words sighting device, but did her language in substance as she described it give reference to it as a sight on the rifle?
Mrs. Paine.
My judgment is that Mr. Mamantov used the word in reference to it first, you see, and then she simply used the same word.
Asking her was she acquainted with this, and giving the word in Russian, and she said she wasn't certain she had seen that binocular or whatever the word used was on the gun.
Senator COOPER. Now, at any time on the 22d, after she had admitted that she had seen a rifle before, and in your talk with her, either on the way into the police station or any other time, did she say anything more about having seen the rifle before?
Mrs. Paine.
No; she didn't.
Senator COOPER. To you? What?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Senator COOPER. Did you know who brought Lee Oswald to your house from Dallas when he would come for his visits?
Mrs. Paine.
After he had gotten his Job it was my understanding that he came with Wesley Frazier.
Senator COOPER. Did you ever hear him say that anyone else brought him to your house?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I didn't.
Senator COOPER. Did he ever say that any fellow worker at the Depository brought him to the house?
Mrs. Paine.
Other than Wesley Frazier; no.
Senator COOPER. Did he ever mention by name or any description any of the people with whom he worked at the Depository?
Mrs. Paine.
Except for Wesley; no.
Senator COOPER. He never mentioned any one of his fellow workers, associates there?
Mrs. Paine.
None.
Senator COOPER. Did he ever refer to them in any way as liking or disliking them as a group or as individuals?
Mrs. Paine.
No; he didn't.
Senator COOPER. In your talks with him or in hearing him talk did he ever refer to any persons who were friends of his or associates?
Mrs. Paine.
I never heard him mention anyone.
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