Mr. Jenner.

Senator COOPER. May I ask a question?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Did Marina ever indicate to you in any way whether or not she felt, after she came to the United States and saw Lee Oswald in his country in which he had been born and reared, that she found him unintelligent or a person of mean ability, small ability or poor background?
Did she ever have any comment in any way on his being inferior?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall her ever commenting in that way.

Mr. Jenner.

Was she disappointed in any way after he returned to the United States?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall her ever saying that.
I had heard Mrs. Ford express such an opinion.

Mr. Jenner.

That would be hearsay?

Mrs. Paine.

That would be hearsay.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you know, are you familiar with the report that appeared in the Fort Worth Press on January 15, 1964, reporting that you had told Marvin Lane that Lee could not have taken the rifle from your garage and gone to practice without your knowledge?
Do you recall that?

Mrs. Paine.

I do.

Mr. Jenner.

Mark Lane.

Mrs. Paine.

It is Mark but that perhaps was in the Fort Worth Press. I recall that.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever make that statement to a reporter for the Fort Worth Press?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, I did; with slight variation. It always came out a more definite statement in the press than I meant to make it.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say to the reporter then?

Mrs. Paine.

I said I did not see how he could have taken the gun from the garage without my knowing it. There were two weekends particularly in question which had been reported in the Press that someone had seen him at a firing range, one being the weekend of the 9th and 10th, and I was home virtually all of that weekend except Monday the 11th as I have already described.
The other being the following weekend, and I didn't see how he could have the weekend he was not out at my house, I didn't see how he could have come out, taken the gun, gone away without my knowledge, and if the gun had not been in that garage that weekend, I didn't see what the purpose of his coming out the 21st of November was in the situation.
And this is what I told Mr. Tackett of the Fort Worth Press.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you also tell Mr. Tackett in addition to, that his reasons for his not engaging in rifle practice that weekend or any other weekend was

that he couldn't drive an automobile?

Mrs. Paine.

Very probably.

Mr. Jenner.

And also that he couldn't have walked that far for rifle practice?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. By that far I mean there is no place you can walk to from my house, not only not to the firing range, but to an open enough place where you could fire. It would be difficult to walk that far.

Mr. Jenner.

Where was the firing-range at which it was suggested he practiced?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't know exactly. It was in the Grand Prairie area, just south of where we are located. But it would be a 15-minute car drive I would expect.

Mr. Jenner.

From your home to the firing range. Do you know, did you ever go to the firing range to see where it really was located?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I never did.

Mr. Jenner.

You are relying on the newspapers, are you?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

When you say thinking of its location you are thinking of the general location of Grand Prairie, Tex.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Were you asked to give your opinion on that?

Mrs. Paine.

I think so.