(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)
Mr. Jenner.
Is this a discussion between you and Marina with the agent present or not present.
Mrs. Paine.
He was present.
Mr. Jenner.
All right.
Mrs. Paine.
Discussion between the three of us.
Mr. Jenner.
Thank you.
Mrs. Paine.
And I can't recall certainly who brought it up, but I think Marina asked of Hosty what did he think of Castro, and he said, "Well, he reads what is printed and from the view given in the American newspapers of Castro's activities and intentions, he certainly didn't like those intentions or actions."
And Marina expressed an opinion subsequently, but contrary, that perhaps he was not given much chance by the American press, or that the press was not entirely fair to him. This I translated.
Mr. Jenner.
Is that the extent of it? Now have you exhausted your recollection?
Mrs. Paine.
I hope so. I have exhausted myself.
Mr. Jenner.
Mr. Chairman, do you have another question?
Senator Cooper.
Not on this subject.
Mr. Jenner.
I would like to return to your furnishing of the name and the telephone number of. Agent Hosty. In Commission Exhibit No. 18, which is in evidence, which was Lee Oswald's diary--by the way, may I hand the exhibit to the witness, Chairman?
Senator Cooper.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
This is an address book. In any event it is in evidence as Exhibit No. 18. Have you ever seen that booklet before?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Examine the outside of the booklet. Have you seen this?
Mrs. Paine.
I have never seen this.
Mr. Jenner.
You have never seen that in Lee Oswald's possession?
Mrs. Paine.
I have never seen it at all.
Mr. Jenner.
There is an entry as follows. Would you help me Mr. Redlich.
Would you read it please?
Mr. Redlich.
"November 1, 1963 FBI agent James P. Hosty."
Mrs. Paine.
Junior?
Mr. Redlich.
Just above the word "Hosty" appears in parentheses "RI 1-1121," and underneath "'James P. Hosty" appears "MU 8605." Underneath that is "1114 Commerce Street Dallas." I would just like to correct upon the record that the phone number originally read is "RI-11211."
Mrs. Paine.
That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
What is that phone number?
Mrs. Paine.
That phone number I recognize from my own use of it is to the FBI in Dallas, my use since the assassination.
Mr. Jenner.
And the series of numbers rather than phone numbers, series of numbers "MU 8605."
Mrs. Paine.
Is not known to me.
Mr. Jenner.
What is the system of license plate numbering and lettering employed in Texas?
Mrs. Paine.
I am not acquainted with any particular system. They use
both letters and numbers.
Mr. Jenner.
I call your attention in connection with this entry that it is dated November 1, 1963, and there does appear in it the license number.
Mrs. Paine.
Oh, yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Your recollection is firm that you didn't furnish it?
Mrs. Paine.
May I point out also that he must have put this down after November 1st, or at least that evening. He could not have written it down with--
Mr. Jenner.
It had to be after the fact as you furnished him the name.
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Mr. Jenner.
And the agent's address.
Mrs. Paine.
I would think he could as well have added--you don't want my thinking--this number.
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