Mrs. Paine.

of his "Dear Sirs," letter which you have marked Commission Exhibit 103 to the FBI agent at the next meeting.

Mr. Jenner.

At the time he called if he did call?

Mrs. Paine.

I thought he would.

Mr. Jenner.

During the interview on November 1, you have testified that Marina was present some of the time.

Mrs. Paine.

She was present virtually all of that time.

Mr. Jenner.

All of the time?

Mrs. Paine.

And virtually none of the next time.

Mr. Jenner.

Virtually none.

Mrs. Paine.

Just came in at the end, on the 5th.

Mr. Jenner.

Was she out in the yard? Did you get that impression any time during that second interview?

Mrs. Paine.

No; she had to have been in her room the entire time.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you firm, reasonably firm that Marina, even if she desired to learn of the license number on Agent Hosty's car, that she could not have seen or detected it while remaining in the house?

Mrs. Paine.

She might possibly--oh, I wouldn't say that. It is conceivable, depending on where it was parked, it is conceivable that she could have seen it from the bedroom window.

Mr. Jenner.

You are holding up exhibit number?

Mrs. Paine.

430.

Mr. Jenner.

And you are pointing to what on that exhibit?

Mrs. Paine.

The window of the bedroom which she occupied, which is the southeast bedroom of my house, looks directly out to where I thought the car
was parked. From that position, if I am correct about where the car was parked, she couldn't have seen the license plate, but she could have seen it if as Agent Hosty described to me later she saw it while the car was moving along the street.

Mr. Jenner.

When he pulled away?

Mrs. Paine.

When he pulled away and then he came back and went the other way.

Mr. Jenner.

So it is possible that she may have seen the license?

Mrs. Paine.

It is possible.

Mr. Jenner.

This date that you are now talking about when he parked the car in front of your house, that was November 5?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, it was.

Mr. Jenner.

Whereas on November 1, he parked the car down the street.

Mrs. Paine.

That is right. I might add a little more detail here if you want it. Marina and I talked about whether to tell Lee that the FBI had been out a second time, and the 5th was a Tuesday. We didn't see Lee until the 8th. She said to me that he had been upset by the FBI's coming out and inquiring about him, and he felt it was interference with his family. And I said there is no reason for him to be upset, or I think conveyed that idea. But the question of whether to tell him was settled by Marina who told him on Friday evening, the 8th, ,and then Lee inquired of me about that meeting, and he said--I don't think I have yet said for the record--he said to me then he felt the FBI was inhibiting his activities. This is what he said. Has this been said?

Mr. Jenner.

Not yet.

Mrs. Paine.

All right, I have said it. I said to him "Don't be worried about it. You have your rights to your views, whether they are popular or not." But I could see that he didn't take that view but rather was seriously bothered by their having come out and inquired about him. At this time or another, I don't recall certainly, I asked whether he was worried about losing his job, and he was.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say so, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

I recall particularly a telephone conversation with him. On one of those in which he called out to talk to Marina, I judge, and perhaps she was busy still changing a baby and I talked. I don't recall the exact circumstances but I do recall it, and I said to him if his views, not any references now to the FBI or their interest in him, but if his political views were interfering with his ability to hold a job, that this might be a matter of interest to the