(Testimony of James Herbert Martin Resumed)
Mr. Martin.
The owner of the rifle range.
Mr. Redlich.
You say they drove up in a car?
Mr. Martin.
He drove up in a car.
Mr. Redlich.
The owner of the rifle range?
Mr. Martin.
No; Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. Redlich.
Drove to the rifle range in a car?
Mr. Martin.
Yes. And----
Mr. Dulles.
Did he drive himself?
Mr. Martin.
Well, this is a report from the rifle range owner who said he had seen Lee Harvey Oswald there on numerous occasions practicing, and that he drove up in a car by himself. He always came by himself, and I did ask her if he could drive and she said no, definitely.
Mr. Redlich.
Where did you read this report or where did you hear about it?
Mr. Martin.
It was right after the start there, in the Dallas papers.
Mr. Redlich.
This was something you read. This was not a personal conversation you had with the owner of the rifle range?
Mr. Martin.
No, it was a newspaper account.
Mr. Redlich.
Were there any other conversations you had with Mrs. Oswald concerning rifle practice?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Mr. Redlich.
Did you have any conversations with her concerning Lee Oswald's ability as a rifleman?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Mr. Redlich.
Did Mrs. Oswald ever discuss with you the fears that she claims to have had that Lee Oswald would attempt to kill a public figure as a result specifically of the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin.
No, other than when she told me that she told him that if he tried anything similar to the Walker incident she would have him arrested. And she never mentioned to me a particular figure that he would do anything like that. She evidently had it though or she wouldn't have made the threat to him.
Mr. Redlich.
Other than the Nixon incident, and the Walker incident, Mrs. Oswald never related to you any other specific incident with regard to the attempt to take the life of anyone?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Representative Ford.
Did Mrs. Oswald, Marina, ever indicate to you her feeling toward guns; did she ever indicate any apprehension about having one in the house?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Representative Ford.
Related to rifles, pistols?
Mr. Martin.
I have a .22 rifle in the house, for instance. Of course, she may never have seen it. But I don't believe the question ever came up at all.
Representative Ford.
She never indicated to you that she had told Lee Harvey Oswald that she was apprehensive about his use of a gun or his having a gun in the household?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Mr. Redlich.
Mr. Martin, I would like to ask you whether Mrs. Oswald ever discussed with you any aspects of the life of Marina Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald while they were in Russia.
Mr. Martin.
Let's see now--she mentioned one time to both my wife and I that Lee had gone to Moscow, I believe, and an old boy friend called her up and she went out with him while Lee was gone.
Mr. Redlich.
Did she indicate to you at that time the purpose of Lee's trip to Moscow?
Mr. Martin.
No.
Mr. Redlich.
Did she indicate to you whether she had told Lee about her going out with this old boy friend?
Mr. Martin.
She said she did tell him.
Mr. Redlich.
By the way, would you recall when Lee made this trip to Moscow?
Mr. Martin.
No, I don't think she mentioned the date at all. She may have but I don't recall.
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