Mr. Jenner.

you had with him, that he had gone to the driver's license application bureau?

Mrs. Paine.

No; he told Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

And did--he told Marina and then Marina in turn told you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

How near the time of the telephone conversation?

Mrs. Paine.

She told me immediately.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Marina tell you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

She just turned from the phone and told you at once?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

This was spontaneous?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. It may have been while she was still on the phone, I don't recall, but it certainly was immediate.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Dulles, to answer your question the document is not dated.

Representative Ford.

I was just noticing in the upper right-hand corner on the one side he lists his occupation as photographer.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; this is so.

Mrs. Paine.

This is what he wanted to do, not what he was doing.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please relate to the Commission what your impression of what his occupation was or occupation had been during the period of time that you had known him?

Mrs. Paine.

When I first met him he was working at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. And had expressed himself as liking his work. I gathered that it was a kind of copying or making up of advertising layout, develop a photographic process.
When we arrived at New Orleans he pointed to a building where he was working. I saw no writing on the outside of the building. He said--no, first on the phone when he first called to say he had a job, he said he was doing work similar to what he had been doing, photographic type of work.

Representative Ford.

Work in Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

He called to us in Dallas from New Orleans to say he was doing such work.

Mr. Jenner.

In New Orleans?

Mrs. Paine.

Subsequently, I have heard it is not so, but this is what he told Marina and she told me over the phone. He said, and she told me immediately over the phone, that he was getting $1.50 an hour instead of $1.25 he had been getting, and then in New Orleans he pointed to a building where he was working, somewhere along the river, near the French Quarter. but a big large brick building with no particular designation on it. I don't know what sort of building it was, but he said it was the photo outfit where he was working then.
When he was looking for a job he said, now, in October, early October, he came back to the Dallas area and he was looking for a job, he said he was hopeful of getting similar work again, photographic layout, whatever it was. But that he was pleased to get any job that would produce an income.

Mr. Dulles.

For the Commission's information, Mr. Jenner, is this not, that is Exhibit No. 426, a form which Lee Oswald apparently took home, or filled out somewhere, either his home or at the office, but it was never sworn to and is not signed.

Mr. Jenner.

That is correct.

Mr. Dulles.

It is not a completed document. It has no date on it.

Mr. Jenner.

It is my information and there will be testimony and that is why I didn't go into the document, that it was found in his, among his effects in his room on Beckley Street. With permission, I might describe the document possibly a little more in detail in view of the interest and the question. At the top of the document under name there is hand printing on this form, first the form is entitled "Application for Texas Driver's License."

Mrs. Paine.

May I interrupt?
(Whereupon, at 12:45 o'clock the President's Commission recessed.)