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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. II - Page 510« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Representative Boggs.
You then would be surprised if he were part of any group?
Mrs. Paine.
I would be very surprised. For one thing, I judged, I had to wonder whether this man was a spy or someone dangerous to our Nation. He had been to the Soviet Union and he had come back and he didn't go as a tourist. He went by his own admission intending to become a Soviet citizen and then came back.
Representative Boggs.
What about Marina--go ahead and finish.
Mrs. Paine.
Then the FBI came, as I thought they well might, interested in this man who had been to the Soviet Union, and I felt that if he had associations this would be very easy for them to know. I didn't see any, but would tend to point to the possibility of his being a spy or subversive. But I didn't see any such and I felt happy that they were charged with the responsibility of knowing about it.
Representative Boggs.
Did you see any indication of any connection of Marina with any group that might be considered unusual?
Mrs. Paine.
No; no one called her.
Representative Boggs.
Did she have any letters?
Mrs. Paine.
She received a letter from a friend in the Soviet Union which she showed to me and mentioned to me.
Representative Boggs.
Was this just a normal letter?
Mrs. Paine.
Girl friend.
Representative Boggs.
What is your present relationship with Marina?
Mrs. Paine.
I have seen her once since the assassination. That was a week ago Monday. It was the first time since the morning of the 23d when she left my house, both of us expecting she would come back to it that evening. In the intervening period I wrote her a collection of letters trying to determine what her feelings were and whether it was suitable for me to write and see her.
I am presently confused, as I was then, as to how to best be a friend to her. I don't know what is appropriate in this situation.
By that I mean during the time I was writing the letters to her and not getting an answer when she was with Mr. Martin.
Representative Boggs.
Was your conversation last Monday friendly?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Representative Boggs.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, thank you, Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Mccloy.
Might I ask one question?
You said that Lee had mentioned General Walker and indicated that he didn't like General Walker. Can you elaborate on that a little bit, to what extent, how violent was he in his expression?
Mrs. Paine.
No; it wasn't violent at all. It was more of, oh, well, more not giving him much credit even, but it was done briefly, this was in passing, so my recollection is hazy. But certainly there was no strong expression.
Mr. Mccloy.
No vehemence about it?
Mrs. Paine.
Absolutely not, I would have remembered that. And I recall that Marina said nothing.
Mr. Mccloy.
Yes.
Mr. Dulles.
You mentioned that Lee did not receive any calls at your house. Did he make any telephone calls?
Mrs. Paine.
I heard him call what he said was the "Time." You know, he dialed, listened and hung up, and then he told us what time it was. That is all his social contact.
Mr. Mccloy.
This is only on one occasion that he spoke of General Walker?
Mrs. Paine.
Just that one in my hearing, apropos of a discussion that was already begun.
Mr. Mccloy.
We have rather interrupted the sequence of your questioning.
Mr. Jenner.
That is all right.
Representative Boggs.
There is one item I might bring out along the line you were inquiring about.
You gave some consideration, did you not, Mrs. Paine, during this period, as to whether Mr. Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald, could or might have been a Russian agent.
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