Mr. Jenner.

New Orleans, did you do anything by way of seeking to have people in New Orleans visit her?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I have already testified that after an initial warm greeting with Lee, they quarreled, and I was uncomfortable there, and wanted to get back home. I had thought of making contact for Marina with someone in the Russian speaking community in New Orleans, and later when I didn't hear from her after this note that looks like "I will have to go back to Russia after all," I much regretted that I had not made some contact for her, someone she could talk to, herself. And anxious, not having heard from her a month from the time of this appendage to my corrected letter, I telephoned Ruth Kloepfer who is the clerk of the Quaker Meeting in New Orleans.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you spell her name, please?

Mrs. Paine.

She is not someone I know. That is spelled K-L-O-E-P-F-E-R, and I asked her if she knew any Russians in New Orleans. She did not. I then wrote to Mrs. Paul Blanchard.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, when you use the pronoun "she" there you asked Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

I asked Mrs. Kloepfer if she knew any Russian-speaking people and described why I was interested in knowing. I must have given her the address of Marina, probably asked that she go and see her. In any case, I have a letter which followed that telephone call, which I wrote to Mrs. Paul Blanchard.

Mr. Mccloy.

Pardon me, did you say you telephoned to Mrs. Blanchard or you wrote to Mrs. Blanchard?

Mrs. Paine.

I wrote to Mrs. Blanchard, I had originally telephoned to Mrs. Kloepfer.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you make the telephone call when you were in New Orleans?

Mrs. Paine.

No; this was when I was concerned. I had not heard from Marina for a month. I did not know whether she was in good health or had gone back to the Soviet Union.

Mr. Jenner.

So you called Mrs. Kloepfer in New Orleans?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct. After having tried to call the Murrets. I had not had their name accurately.

Representative Boggs.

How did you happen to write to Mrs. Blanchard?

Mrs. Paine.

She is the secretary of the Unitarian Church in New Orleans and I called the Quaker Church in Dallas to find out who was in New Orleans of the Quakers, and then I called the Unitarian Church which my husband belongs to in Dallas to find out who the secretary of the New Orleans Unitarian Church was.

Representative Boggs.

You do not know Mrs. Blanchard?

Mrs. Paine.

I did not know her, and I did not know Mrs. Kloepfer either, and appended to this that I am leaving with the Commission is my carbon of a letter to Mrs. Blanchard of the Unitarian Church, which I sent in carbon to Mrs. Kloepfer so each would know what the other was doing in an effort to find a Russian-speaking person who could be a contact for Marina.
(At this point Representative Ford left the hearing room.)

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Paine, you have now mentioned a letter that you wrote to Mrs. Blanchard; have you supplied the Commission with a carbon copy of that letter?

Mrs. Paine.

I have.

Mr. Jenner.

And it is a two-page document, Mr. Chairman, dated July 18, 1963, now marked as Commission Exhibit 419. That exhibit has now been handed to you, Mrs. Paine. Is that the carbon copy of your letter to Mrs. Blanchard?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Jenner.

You did not know Mrs. Blanchard, had never heard of her prior to the time you wrote the letter?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct. It begins saying, "Mrs. Philip Harper, the secretary of the Dallas Unitarian Church, suggested I write to you when I told her of the following problem."

Mr. Jenner.

Is the document in the same condition now as it was when you prepared the original of which that is a carbon copy?