Mrs. Paine.

Because my Russian was so poor, and the De Mohrensehildts could both do it all so much better.

Mr. Jenner.

Was Mr. Oswald's command of Russian very good, also?

Mrs. Paine.

I didn't hear him speak Russian that night at all.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, is that so?

Mrs. Paine.

He may have, but I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

He did no translating?

Mrs. Paine.

No. For her, no.

Mr. Jenner.

For Marina. And on no occasion--he sat there and on none of the occasions did he translate, but, rather, Mr. De Mohrenschildt did the translating?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't even believe that was translating. They would address themselves to her in a separate conversation from what was going on from these three or four around him.

Mr. Jenner.

So that those who did not understand Russian got nothing from it?

Mrs. Paine.

Those who did not understand English got nothing from what
he was saying--is that what you mean, or do you mean the other way?

Mr. Jenner.

If no one interpreted her in English, translated for her.

Mrs. Paine.

No one understood it; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Then whose who didn't understand Russian--

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Did not understand what she was saying?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

And that went on through the entire evening?

Mrs. Paine.

You must understand she was not present for, I would say, more than half of the evening. She was just with her child.

Mr. Jenner.

But while she was present.

Mrs. Paine.

There was no translation done for her benefit.

Mr. Jenner.

Or for the benefit of anybody else who did not understand Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

The other way; no. It is a long time ago.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, yes. Was anything the subject that evening of Mrs. Oswald's family background? Was that discussed?

Mrs. Paine.

Of Marina's?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

No; nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

It was not discussed at anytime during that evening, the fact that she was in Russia, she had been educated as, and was, a pharmacist?

Mrs. Paine.

That might have been said. I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your reaction to the De Mohrenschildts that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

I had heard from Everett that they were interesting people, that they had gone on a hiking tour through Mexico taking pictures as they went. I learned or had known from Everett, also, in this one telephone conversation, that he was a geologist, a free lancer.
Mrs. De Mohrenschildt seemed somewhat protective toward Marina in the sense of wanting her to understand what was wanting to talk with her, to include her. Mr. De Mohrenschildt talked about his past life some in English.

Mr. Jenner.

His speaking of his past life was in English?

Mrs. Paine.

Was in English. I recalled to him his first wife who was also a Quaker. I remember he said that.

Mr. Jenner.

When was your next contact with either Marina Oswald or Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

I wrote a letter, a note to Marina at the address I had been given, and got a note back saying, "We have moved. This is the new address. Come in perhaps a week." From that time. She wanted to get the house cleaned up before I came.

Mr. Jenner.

They lived in Dallas, did they not?

Mrs. Paine.

That was in Dallas; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

On this February 22 occasion they were then living on Neely Street in Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

I believe they moved just in that period that I had the previous