Mr. Liebeler.

What did she say?

Mr. Paine.

Well, she was--I think I said, "Let me see that letter again," and she said, "No; if you didn't absorb it, never mind." So, heck, if she felt that way, I wasn't going to bother. My first impulse was to throw it aside and pay no attention to it. If she felt that way I continued to do it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Who brought the letter up the second time, did Ruth bring it up?

Mr. Paine.

Yes; Ruth brought it up.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember whether there was any event that caused her to bring it up or did she bring it up out of the clear blue sky or what?

Mr. Paine.

I don't remember having slept with her but I have the impression she brought it up while I was in bed anyway. So it might have been, just be, I was staying late that night also, I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you know that Oswald had given Marina a charm made out of a Mexican peso at the time that you read this letter?

Mr. Paine.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you learn about that at any time prior to the assassination?

Mr. Paine.

Not that I remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you note the fact that Oswald had a record of Mexican music in your home prior to the assassination?

Mr. Paine.

I didn't know that.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you subsequently learn that Oswald had given Marina this charm made from a Mexican peso?

Mr. Paine.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Under what circumstances?

Mr. Paine.

The FBI came out and they were wondering whether Oswald had used my shop to mount his sight so we went out to look at the shop and tools and we looked at the threading tap and what not, the threading tap looked as though it hadn't been used but the drill press seemed to have little chips of metal on it and then Ruth remembered that he had gone in there and used the drill press to have drilled out this coin which Marina put around her neck, and I think she then mentioned it was a peso. But it hadn't sunk into Ruth with significance of its being a peso, hadn't impressed itself upon her prior to the assassination.

Mr. Liebeler.

So that neither you nor your wife believed that Oswald had been in Mexico prior to the assassination?

Mr. Paine.

You will have to ask Ruth about that. That was my impression he hadn't been there.

Mr. Liebeler.

Your wife hadn't said anything to you that indicated that she believed it?

Mr. Paine.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, you mentioned before the fact that you had gone with Oswald to a meeting of the American Civil Liberties Union, is that correct?

Mr. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did you do that?

Mr. Paine.

That was the day after Stevenson had been stoned.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you tell us the circumstances of that event?

Mr. Paine.

That was a Friday I had intended to go, I had also invited Frank Krystinik for his first visit, I had been telling him about the ACLU. So I invited Lee to come thinking it might be part--I was not really talking to him very much, but just being civil but I thought it might be helpful for him to see something in which I was interested, that I might find some way that he might find an interest, something constructive to do.
So, I took him in my car, he and I alone, and on the way, which takes about 35 minutes, described the ACLU to him, and he didn't know about it, and described its purpose. Then we went to the meeting which was a meeting, first we saw a movie called "Suspect," I think it was showing how a candidate lost, who had won handily in a previous election, lost after a smear campaign in Washington State, which it had been brought out that his wife had once been a Communist Party member.
I didn't think the movie showed very much, but the meeting, the discussion following the movie, there were two people who gave little talks about the movie and the principles involved afterward, this--do you want to break?