Mrs. Ford.

No; that is right. But she stayed at Anna Meller's house for a week and when she came to Anna Meller's house I heard there were bruises at that time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Anna Meller tell you that?

Mrs. Ford.

Either Anna Meller or George Bouhe told me that. I don't remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you yourself did see bruises on her face the first time?

Mrs. Ford.

I did see the first time; yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did she tell you that Lee Oswald had given her those bruises?

Mrs. Ford.

That is right.

Mr. Liebeler.

She told you that when she stayed with you?

Mrs. Ford.

That is right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Tell us the circumstances under which Marina left your home in November of 1962, where she went and what happened?

Mrs. Ford.

Well, she stayed with me a week, and my husband came home on Saturday, and we discussed with another friend of mine for Marina to go to her house and stay there as long as she wanted, and I think Sunday morning this friend of mine, Anna Ray, came with a station wagon and picked all her things up, her playpen she had for baby, and diapers and things, and took her to her house and I believe my husband was with her, too, at that time and that is how she left.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, do you know how long she stayed with the Rays?

Mrs. Ford.

With the Rays. I think she just stayed there, she had had dinner there, I believe she stayed one afternoon. I don't know how soon Lee came there but he came soon over to the house, but Marina said he cried and begged her to return, he would be nothing, if she didn't return, he would be finished, that is what he was telling her, and she said she just couldn't say, no to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

So she returned to Oswald at that time?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; she returned to Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever talk with the Mellers about their experiences with Marina when she lived at their house for that time?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I don't remember, she did not discuss it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you remember or did you know where Lee Oswald was living prior to the time that Marina came to Dallas?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I don't know where he lived at any time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you know where he was working at that time or if he was working at all?

Mrs. Ford.

During the time they lived in Dallas, I believe, I don't know exactly, though, either George Bouhe or Anna Meller's husband found him a job in a printing shop, I think, or I believe it is printing shop, somewhere in Oak Cliff, and that is why they had an apartment there. I remember that is the reason because George Bouhe was rather mad at Marina for taking an apartment in Oak Cliff because it was too far for him to drive and help her when she needed help and the baby, I think he was taking her to the dentist and taking the baby to a doctor to help her in ways that she couldn't do herself.

Representative Ford.

Who was doing this driving?

Mrs. Ford.

I believe George Bouhe did this. He has the car.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where does Bouhe live?

Mrs. Ford.

He lives, well, I don't know his address now. I know where he lives but I don't know the street number.

Mr. Liebeler.

But it is not in the Oak Cliff Section of Dallas?

Mrs. Ford.

No; it is not. I think it would be in the east part of Dallas.

Mr. Liebeler.

During the time that Marina stayed with you, did she say anything to you about Lee Oswald's political beliefs or his attitudes concerning politics?

Mrs. Ford.

No; she didn't talk to me about that and I didn't ask her.
Frankly, I didn't talk with Lee about that, I didn't feel the need of it myself to discuss politics with him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss that subject with any of your friends?

Mrs. Ford.

Well, yes. They were telling me, those friends that went to his