Mr. Liebeler.

Stayed with Mrs. Meller?

Mrs. Ford.

With Mrs. Meller, I don't think it was longer than a week, and then my husband was supposed to go away for a week or so; I don't remember the time, I thought he was going--he said he had to go Austin and I told Mr. Bouhe that I could take her for a week, just take her in, if she didn't have a place to go, so I did, and she stayed with me.

Mr. Liebeler.

Why did she come to you as opposed to staying with Anna Meller?

Mrs. Ford.

Anna Meller has a small two-room apartment and I have a bigger house. We have four bedrooms so I could make room for her and her children.

Mr. Liebeler.

When Mr. Bouhe called you and told you about this, did he tell you anything about why Marina was leaving Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; he said because of mistreatment and she decided she is not going to return to him any longer, and Mr. Bouhe said, told her, if she made a promise to him she is not going to return to that man he will help her all he could to find a place to stay permanently such as maybe as help at home at somebody's house until she learns enough English to start going on her own whatever she could do.
And I think he was trying to do, he was trying to find a place and that is the reason before that she needed a place to stay until she did find a place, and I kept her for a week until my husband returned and then another friend of mine, who also has a fairly large place where Marina could be comfortable, she told me she could keep her there for as long as Marina wished to stay.

Mr. Liebeler.

How did Marina actually get to your place? Did Mr. Bouhe bring her to your place?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; he did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know how long Marina stayed with Anna Meller before she came to your place?

Mrs. Ford.

It could be a week but I am not sure. But I don't think it is longer than a week.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Lee Oswald come to see Marina while Marina was at your house?

Mrs. Ford.

No; he did not but he did talk to her on the telephone, I think approximately after 3 days, after she stayed with me he called her up every night, I think he did call, every evening.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Marina talk to him on the telephone?

Mrs. Ford.

She was hesitating at first but he wouldn't leave the telephone until she came to telephone and she was talking to him. I didn't hear what he was saying but she was telling him not to call on her again and not to bother, she was not going to return to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did she tell you what the conversations were about?

Mrs. Ford.

No. She did not say anything.

Representative Ford.

When was this period that she stayed with you, October and November of 1963?

Mrs. Ford.

I believe it must have been the first part of November.

Representative Ford.

Of 1963?

Mrs. Ford.

1962.

Representative Ford.

1962.

Mrs. Ford.

That is correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did Marina Oswald pay you anything for the privilege of staying at your home at that time?

Mrs. Ford.

No: I did not expect it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there any arrangement she would work in the house?

Mrs. Ford.

No; there was no arrangement; no.

Mr. Liebeler.

Tell us what Marina told you while she was staying there about her relations with Lee Oswald and particularly as to why she separated from him and what the difficulties were in their marriage?

Mrs. Ford.

I think mostly it was a mistreatment by him that she couldn't stand any longer, she was saying.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mistreatment by him?

Mrs. Ford.

Mistreatment by him; yes. That is what she was saying.