Mr. Ball.

When you weren't here he showed us his punch and he punched it for us. He has got his punch.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Each driver has a different punch. They all are registered. In other words, regardless of how many there are--that is my punch right there--there is some shape or form different, just like I say the superintendent has every man's name and a punch mark right on down, in other words, so when--
Senator COOPER. Do you know whether the punches are different in the shape that they make?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir; no, sir; I don't know anything about that. I know--
Senator COOPER. What you are saying is, then, you have punched so many of these transfer that you recognize your own punch?

Mr. Mcwatters.

I can recognize my own punchmark. I don't think there is supposed to be another--
Senator COOPER. Is there anything else on the transfer which indicates that it was one which would be issued on your bus?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Well, except only where it is punched--in other words, I come off of Lakewood Boulevard there where that would be the only distinction right there, is the punchmark and the name of where I have it punched there.
Senator COOPER. Did anyone tell you, either the police or the FBI or any other officer or any other person, tell you at the time you made your first affidavit or later that there was another man reported to have been on your bus and got off?

Mr. Mcwatters.

I don't recall.
Senator COOPER. Have you ever reported to the police the fact that you have carried as a passenger since November 22d the teenager whom you have now identified as having the name of Milton Jones?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Did I ever report it to the police?
Senator COOPER. Yes.

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. Have they ever been back to talk to you any more about this?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. About this matter?

Mr. Mcwatters.

They have never, been back to me. The only time they have talked to me
Senator COOPER. Did you ever see--

Mr. Mcwatters.

I beg pardon?
Senator COOPER. You saw--was any of the men in the police lineup ever identified to you as being Lee Oswald?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Any men in the--
Senator COOPER. Yes, I think you saw the men in the lineup, didn't you?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Before you were asked to select a man in the lineup, did the police or any officer identify any one of them as bearing the name of Lee Oswald?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir; they never stated anything.
Senator COOPER. Later was he identified to you in any way?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Was he identified to me?
Senator COOPER. As being Lee Oswald?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, they didn't tell me as far as saying, mentioning any name Lee Oswald, it was never, the name Lee Oswald, I don't believe was ever mentioned while we was back there.
Senator COOPER. Did you ever see this same man you call No. 2 in the lineup again--did you ever go back there after that time and see this same person again?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. Identified as No. 2?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir; I never did go back any more, that was the only time I was ever there was the one on November 22, about 6 something in the afternoon.
Senator COOPER. Have you seen photographs of a man who is named in those photographs as being Lee Oswald?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Have I saw them?