Mr. Ball.

Did you know, did you remember, an elderly woman getting on your bus some place on Elm after you left St. Paul?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Not that I recall.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember when this man, do you remember when this man knocked on your window, and you opened your bus and let him on, some place around Murphy or Griffin and Elm, that an elderly woman got up in the bus and moved?
Did you see that or anything like that?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, I don't recall.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know whether or not you left an elderly woman off down around in the Oak Cliff area some place?

Mr. Mcwatters.

The best I can recall I had two or three or four elderly women, the best I can remember on the bus when I left town, but I don't recall where any of them got off.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know a woman named Mary Bledsoe? Did you pick anybody up at St. Paul and Elm?

Mr. Mcwatters.

I really don't--I really can't recall whether I did or not.

Mr. Ball.

I have no further questions.
Senator COOPER. I would like to ask a few, if I may.
Am I correct in saying that the direction of your bus at the time of these events you have testified to it was going west on Elm Street?

Mr. Mcwatters.

West on Elm. In other words, west, the streets of Dallas all run east and west.
Senator COOPER. But when you got to Houston Street, then you turned south?

Mr. Mcwatters.

I turned south, that is correct.
Senator COOPER. Did your bus pass the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Well--
Senator COOPER. I mean does it pass it directly?

Mr. Mcwatters.

It doesn't pass it directly, no, sir. In other words, where I turn to the left on Houston Street, the book store is across on the opposite corner.
Senator COOPER. Now, as you reached Lamar Street, or did you reach Lamar Street on that date before you passed near the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Mcwatters.

You mean--yes, I have to pass Lamar Street before I get down to there.
Senator COOPER. Now, this first affidavit you made on November 22--

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir.
Senator COOPER. Which has been referred to in the testimony.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. It stated in this affidavit that, "I picked up a man on the lower end of town on Elm around Houston."
Now, you picked up a man at that time it would have been after you passed Lamar Street?

Mr. Mcwatters.

It would have been after I passed Lamar.
Senator COOPER. The remainder of the affidavit, which has been made a part of the testimony

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Refers to that you picked up a woman and you asked her if she knew the President had been shot, and then the man--you asked her then to speak to the man behind her.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. "Who said the President was shot in the temple." Now, then, this incident that you testified to in this affidavit, was after you had passed Elm Street?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir; that is right.
Senator COOPER. Was the man that you were talking about in this affidavit the teenager?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir.
Senator COOPER. At the time this affidavit was made, were you asked about any other man who may have been on the run that day at that time?

Mr. Mcwatters.

I don't remember whether I was or not.