Mr. Ball.

First of all, you have referred to that as another bus, Munger Bus, is that the same bus?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir; in other words, that number there is my run number right here on my card.

Mr. Ball.

I understand that, but do you call that run the Marsalis run as well as the Munger run?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir. Well, here you can--let me show you here on this schedule right here, Marsalis, Ramona, Elwood and Munger.

Mr. Ball.

Can we take this and have a Xerox--

Mr. Mcwatters.

You can just take the whole thing.

Mr. Ball.

All right. We will have a Xerox of this and mark it 378, a Xerox copy.
Will you identify that document and tell me what it is?
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit 378, for identification.)

Mr. Mcwatters.

This is a schedule, I will just say a bus schedule.

Mr. Ball.

That is for the Marsalis-Ramona-Elwood-Munger run?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That is correct.

Mr. Ball.

Run 1213. Is this the run schedule that was in effect on November 22, 1963?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir; that is correct.

Mr. Ball.

It shows here at St. Paul you were to leave at 12:36; is that correct?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That is correct.

Mr. Ball.

We will make a photostat of that and we will give you back the original.

Mr. Mcwatters.

You can keep that if you want to. They made another copy of it.

Mr. Ball.

All right, then, we will keep this as an original. Can this be introduced into evidence, Senator?
Senator COOPER. Yes, let it be made a part of the evidence.
(The document heretofore marked for identification as Commission Exhibit No. 378, was received in evidence.)

Mr. Ball.

I have a few more questions to ask you, a few more questions, Mr. McWatters.
Let's look again at this affidavit.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

"I picked up a man on the lower end of town on Elm around Houston," as I remember you didn't stop at Elm and Houston; you stopped at Record and Houston for a pickup.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember having picked up any man around the lower end of town at Elm around Houston?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Elm and Houston?

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, no, sir; I didn't pick up. I made a statement here I picked up--

Mr. Ball.

Take a look at it, "I picked up a man on the lower end of town on Elm around Houston."

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, I didn't. I picked--"I picked a man up at the lower end of town at Elm," no, sir, I didn't pick up no man.
No, I was tied up in traffic there. Market Street is the--I must not have read that very good when I signed that, because I sure didn't. No, I didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Did you pick up a man at Record and Houston?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir; that is not even no stop.

Mr. Ball.

In other words, this statement is not an accurate statement?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That is right, sir, because in fact that day the police wouldn't let nobody, in other words they run them buses through but they wouldn't let nothing stop there, in other words.