Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Representative Ford.

Did all this occur after you had finished your lunch?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; it did.

Representative Ford.

Did it ever occur to you at any time following the shooting there was something connecting the shooting with Lee Oswald and the package?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, I say not particularly not at that time, I didn't think anything about it because, to be frank with you, some were over here, one or two would be over here talking and just strung out here, on the first floor and I didn't think anything about it. I see some of the guys, they go out for lunch and they come back 12:45 so I didn't know whether he had went out to lunch or not. Some of them do every week.

Representative Ford.

Did any of the policemen interfere with your efforts to go into the Building and eventually down into the basement where you had your lunch?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; they didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Before you left, did you look for Oswald to see about taking him home?

Mr. Frazier.

No; I didn't, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Was there some reason why you didn't?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; I did. Because like I told you, he was going home to get the curtain rods and I asked him at the time, the same time, it would be about that, would he be going home with me Friday afternoon like he had been doing, he said no. So naturally when they let us go I took on off because I thought maybe they had already dismissed him and he went on home.

Mr. Ball.

When you talked to him on Thursday and he told you he wouldn't be going home on Friday, did he tell you what he was going to do, why he wasn't going to go home?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; he didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Did you talk to him again on Friday morning as to whether or not he had changed his mind? Did you ask him whether or not you could pick him up at the end of the day?

Mr. Frazier.

To be frank with you, Mr. Ball, I am not sure.

Mr. Ball.

Whether you did or not.
Did anybody tell you that Lee Oswald was missing before you went home?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; they didn't.

Representative Ford.

Could you describe for the Commission where you went on the sixth floor that morning in relationship to the overall picture of the sixth floor?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; I could.

Representative Ford.

Would you do so, please?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.
Do you have a piece of paper I can draw? [Witness draws diagram on piece of paper.]
Let's see, right here is your two elevator shafts we have. That morning I used this one over here.

Representative Ford.

Would you mark Houston, Elm and the other streets?

Mr. Frazier.

This is Houston, this is Elm right out here. Anyway, like I said, I won't draw these buildings. I have these two elevator shafts here. Quickly you come off these elevator shafts right here, we have skids with books on them, and you see right on those skids you would have some shelves right about like this and so I merely walked over to the elevator with the two-wheeler we use on the dock and walked somewhere say maybe halfway, not quite halfway, there and put up some books, put them down on the floor there, on the floor level and so I just turned around and come back to the elevator and come on down, and went about my business. He had me putting up some books there on the shelves.

Representative Ford.

From this point here could you see the windows or the area at the corner of Houston and Elm in the Building?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; you could. I say you could look down and see this area back over here.

Representative Ford.

Did you look over there?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I didn't.