Mr. Frazier.

Right, beyond here.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever go into that area where it was clear before you went downstairs?
From the time you came back into the room, did you go down into this area which was clear before you went downstairs?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I didn't go in here. I was right over right close to Mr. Shelley's office right around here and sit around and talked with some guys around there.

Mr. Ball.

You are indicating around Mr. Shelley's office?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; pretty close right there, like I say more or less right out over in here we have a--

Mr. Ball.

Put a mark there.

Mr. Frazier.

Let's see--

Mr. Ball.

Put a circle to show the general area where you and the rest of them stood around and talked.

Mr. Frazier.

Right in there is right around near the telephone and we were just right around in there.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you go?

Mr. Frazier.

We left, you know, after we stood and talked with some guys there, some of them had eaten and some of them didn't, some of them had sandwiches in their hands, so naturally I felt like eating and I walked around the bin and walked down the steps there.

Mr. Ball.

Got your lunch?

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

Come back up?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I didn't come back up. I was sitting eating my lunch. I looked at my watch and didn't have but 10 minutes, so I naturally ate faster than normal, so I was eating a couple of sandwiches, and eat an apple or something and come right back up and the guys, the people who worked there, standing around on the first floor, some of them eating their lunches and others merely talking.

Mr. Ball.

You never went back to work?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; we didn't. I didn't work any more that day.

Mr. Ball.

You stayed there on the job until you were told to go home?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What time did they tell you to go home?

Mr. Frazier.

It was between 1 and 2 there sometime, roughly, I don't know what time it was.

Mr. Ball.

Had the police officers come in there and talked to you?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; they come in and talked to all of us. They asked us to show our proper identification, and then they had us to write our name down and who to get in touch with if they wanted to see us.

Mr. Ball.

Did they ask you where you had been at the time the President passed?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; they had. I told them I was out on the steps there.

Mr. Ball.

Asked you who you were with?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; I told them and naturally Mr. Shelley and Billy vouched for me and so they didn't think anything about it.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear anybody around there asking for Lee Oswald?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Ball.

At any time before you went home, did you hear anybody ask for Lee?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I don't believe they did, because they, you know, like one man showed us, we had to give proper identification and after we passed him he told us to walk on then to the next man, and we, you know, put down proper information where he could be found if they wanted to see you and talk to you any more, and then we went on up to a little bit more to the front entrance more toward Mr. Shelley's office there with another man and stood there for a little while and told us all that was there could go ahead and go home.

Mr. Ball.

Then you went on home?